• Maggoty@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Four months is not “so little time”. And I agree that Shapiro and Walz have branding issues, but 4 months, the entire news media and DNC war chest would be enough to solve that. Newsom doesn’t have nearly the baggage Hillary had either. Hillary had baggage going back to 1992. Newsom has baggage from ~5 years ago? At that point there’s no one qualified to run, not even Biden.

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      4 months ago

      It’s short enough time that a new nominee would literally be disqualified from the ballot in some states.

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        4 months ago

        This is a lie. It’s been a lie, and you should know better by now rather than repeating it.

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            Nope, it’s a lie. The date to appear on the Ohio ballot is still in the future. A new candidate could appear on it without issue.

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                4 months ago

                That’s for primary candidates. Maybe actually read the source you’re quoting before you “double down”. There are no states with requirements that would prevent a new candidate from appearing on the general election ballot.

                Reporting you for misinformation.

                Fucking LOL. Hears some trivia on social media that reinforces his biases and doesn’t wonder why no legitimate sources point it out as a problem and then jumps to calling the mods for “misinformation” when his wrong fact is rejected.

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                  There are no states with requirements that would prevent a new candidate from appearing on the general election ballot.

                  What as a fucking independent? As a “minor political party”? (deadline for those is Aug 7 btw)

                  The deadline has passed for anyone other than Joe Biden to be the Democratic nominee, and the deadline is rapidly approaching for ANYONE to be on the ballot, of any party.

                  I suppose the DNC could just nullify all its own rules and send a different candidate to the Secretary of State within the next 3 weeks. How well do you think that would play over? “DNC rigs its own process to force through [candidate name here]”.

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                    What the fuck are you talking about? There is no Democrat specified in any sort of rules or paperwork for Ohio. The Democratic nominee is decided by the delegates. They have a deadline for submission, but not one that in any way has locked in Joe Biden. Joe Biden could withdraw or release his delegates and we could have a different candidate with no issue whatsoever.

                    Amazing how you keep at this after being embarrassingly wrong about your first justification. You’re somehow committed to try to keep making a procedural argument despite being wrong about the rules you thought caused the problem. You just smoothly move on to an entirely different objection without ever recognizing that you were the one spreading misinformation. I thought misinformation was a bad thing that was important to combat, but somehow I see no edits, no mea culpas, no clearing up that you were spreading it. How are you not embarrassed?

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        The only state that requires certification before the convention is Ohio. A state we aren’t counting on and have little to no chance to win unless we suddenly run Reagan 2.0.

        There’s 49 other states that would still be in play, including all of the normal blue states and swing states.

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          Ohio even passed a special exception to extend the deadline to after the convention, though it’s unclear from the news I read whether there might be some risk of it being overturned by the court if Democrats needed it.

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            Oh I don’t think anyone is really depending on Ohio to keep its word on that. But there’s definitely a cursed timeline where Harris is the nominee out of the convention, Ohio withdraws their promise, and Democrats get close enough with a write in campaign that it’s plausible she would have taken Ohio. Cue more political violence.

            At any rate I’m sure that has no chance of happening in our timeline, none whatsoever. Definitely not.

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              Well, they did pass the law. It’s just whether it can be invalidated in courts because they poisoned it with a provision to bar permanent residents (green card holders) from contributing to campaigns, which is likely unconstitutional. In a normal world, the individual ban would be thrown out, as it doesn’t really have anything to do with ballot registration, but there’s little reason to think the Supreme Court wouldn’t rule in a way that disadvantages Democrats.