You gonna downplay my 11 years of blood, sweat, and tears for a PhD because I went to a state school? I’d be happy to prove how much bullshit that is against any ivy League engineer you know.
An Ivy League education is an expensive luxury product for the parents. That way they can brag to their peers about their children. It’s well known that the main benefit of an Ivy education is networking. That’s because of the connections that the parents have, not because the education is better.
With the exception of maybe Princeton or Columbia, top research isn’t coming out of Ivy League schools. And the good research they do have is because they pay the top people more. They don’t have smarter students, they just have more resources.
MIT isn’t an Ivy. Cal Tech isn’t an Ivy. Stanford isn’t. UC Berkeley and University of Michigan definitely aren’t.
With the exception of maybe Princeton or Columbia, top research isn’t coming out of Ivy League schools.
Doesn’t Harvard have one of the most advanced medical programs in the entire world? Perhaps the best even. Especially in fields related to cancer research.
Mayo, Stanford, University of Michigan and University of Minnesota all turn out more research than Harvard does, and those are just the tip of the iceberg. Harvard is a big name, but they aren’t making the big breakthroughs anymore.
Also the ivy league medical schools don’t provide as much in the way of community medical services as the others do. To my knowledge, Harvard isn’t out there running critical access hospitals in rural communities at a loss like Mayo and University of Minnesota are.
(And I’m absolutely positive that there are a bunch of other state universities and medical programs that do just as much as Mayo and University of Minnesota in terms of community medical services, but I’m just not as familiar with them )
Nowhere. It could also didn’t say (but could have said) any school that participates in the Greek system is just a party network that occasionally gives degrees.
I don’t like sports or Greek stuff but I don’t like downplaying the quality of academics of an institution even more than that. Lots of us gave a decade or more to the academic parts of those places and it is shitty to write it off as an afterthought to sports or frats or whatever. It tastes bad to read shit like this after paying more student loans than the cost of the house of the person tweeting it, you know?
I get you but frats are not a great comparison considering they don’t suck funding out of schools in exchange for … entertainment you have to pay a second time for.
It might taste bad for you but how about the students in underfunded programs due to the leeching of athletics? They paid to go to a place of learning and there are only so many seats, which are being reduced to fund… a useless activity. Before you jump on the well rounded individual thing, intramural sports are what most students would have access to and do not require the massive amount of spending that collegiate sports require so it’s not a benefit for the rest of the student population. Why should they be required to hold their tongue because it gives you a bad taste?
Where I went the funding pools were entirely separate. Sports pays for sports stuff (buildings, staff, recruitment, etc. and does some endowment stuff additionally) and the academic stuff comes from tuition and academic grants. Sports drives name recognition and also boosts enrollment rates.
Its bad for parking, but it’s just how business works. Maybe if we were in a country that funded higher ed this wouldn’t be a problem, but we don’t have any pure universities outside maybe some community colleges.
And that thesis doesn’t mean shit.
You gonna downplay my 11 years of blood, sweat, and tears for a PhD because I went to a state school? I’d be happy to prove how much bullshit that is against any ivy League engineer you know.
An Ivy League education is an expensive luxury product for the parents. That way they can brag to their peers about their children. It’s well known that the main benefit of an Ivy education is networking. That’s because of the connections that the parents have, not because the education is better.
With the exception of maybe Princeton or Columbia, top research isn’t coming out of Ivy League schools. And the good research they do have is because they pay the top people more. They don’t have smarter students, they just have more resources.
MIT isn’t an Ivy. Cal Tech isn’t an Ivy. Stanford isn’t. UC Berkeley and University of Michigan definitely aren’t.
Doesn’t Harvard have one of the most advanced medical programs in the entire world? Perhaps the best even. Especially in fields related to cancer research.
Mayo, Stanford, University of Michigan and University of Minnesota all turn out more research than Harvard does, and those are just the tip of the iceberg. Harvard is a big name, but they aren’t making the big breakthroughs anymore.
Also the ivy league medical schools don’t provide as much in the way of community medical services as the others do. To my knowledge, Harvard isn’t out there running critical access hospitals in rural communities at a loss like Mayo and University of Minnesota are.
(And I’m absolutely positive that there are a bunch of other state universities and medical programs that do just as much as Mayo and University of Minnesota in terms of community medical services, but I’m just not as familiar with them )
Where does it say any of that?
Nowhere. It could also didn’t say (but could have said) any school that participates in the Greek system is just a party network that occasionally gives degrees.
I don’t like sports or Greek stuff but I don’t like downplaying the quality of academics of an institution even more than that. Lots of us gave a decade or more to the academic parts of those places and it is shitty to write it off as an afterthought to sports or frats or whatever. It tastes bad to read shit like this after paying more student loans than the cost of the house of the person tweeting it, you know?
I get you but frats are not a great comparison considering they don’t suck funding out of schools in exchange for … entertainment you have to pay a second time for.
It might taste bad for you but how about the students in underfunded programs due to the leeching of athletics? They paid to go to a place of learning and there are only so many seats, which are being reduced to fund… a useless activity. Before you jump on the well rounded individual thing, intramural sports are what most students would have access to and do not require the massive amount of spending that collegiate sports require so it’s not a benefit for the rest of the student population. Why should they be required to hold their tongue because it gives you a bad taste?
Where I went the funding pools were entirely separate. Sports pays for sports stuff (buildings, staff, recruitment, etc. and does some endowment stuff additionally) and the academic stuff comes from tuition and academic grants. Sports drives name recognition and also boosts enrollment rates.
Its bad for parking, but it’s just how business works. Maybe if we were in a country that funded higher ed this wouldn’t be a problem, but we don’t have any pure universities outside maybe some community colleges.
All this tweet is about is that it’s bullshit that sports coaches are paid more than educators.