Fascinating. I never understood why the removedolding fetish (fixation? obsession?) came with such a strong overlap with, I guess, race play? Feels like a charitable way to put it.
I didn’t believe it at first, but any quick web search will show that removedolding largely is about the races of the people involved.
Which makes a lot more sense if seen through the framework you just described.
There’s also overlap with power narcissism (“might makes right”, nearly always ties in to physical narcissism and intellectual narcissism), money narcissism (classism), gender narcissism (misogyny), and savior narcissism (the stuff you see in charities and churches, evangelicalism).
And more ofc. There’s no limit to delusions someone can have.
All of that overlaps because there is intersectionality of narcissitic abusers, who then look for victims who safisfy that. We focus a lot of intersectionality of victims and not their abusers. But it’s why Ted Bundy picked young white attractive college girls with long straight dark hair to attack - all of those aspects represent his own narcissistic delusions, they are not the fault or problem of the victim, but of the abuser projecting onto the victim. They look for perfect dolls or teddy bears to project onto. Ted Bundy was otherwise perfectly safe to Anne Rice and most people he encountered because she wasn’t someone he could fully project onto - his narcissistic delusion enforcement wasn’t triggered by her.
So for eg it isn’t so much that Native American women are more likely to be murdered because they are Native women, but that there’s a widespread narcissistic belief set that murdering Native American women is not a concern, so much so that police and media and much of the public ignore it or actively aid it. And now we see this issue magnifying with the deportations - where are all the women? Latinos are just Native Americans who were colonized by Spanish speakers, after all.
But when we focus on abusers instead of the abused, the abusers realize they will get cut off from supply and they have a huge pushback for control.
Sure, yeah, but none of that explains what billionaires being “negrous” means? Like something something connect them with the same negative attributes that they keep going on about?
Then these delusions can be applied to others not even in that group, because it was never based on reality to begin with. That’s why he’s calling white people the n word, he simply wants supply and it doesn’t matter if what he says makes sense or is rational.
I know I’m an idiot, but I actually still don’t understand it.
So there is no black people, that are billionaires. So that is not a problem. But he wants there to be a problem. So he just says that they act black. Which is a problem.
His hatred of blackness is based on a delusion, an unreality, a false narrative. Therefore, it doesn’t actually need to make sense. He just compulsively uses that narrative to either feel 1) validated, smart, amazing, grandiose or 2) hated, a monster, the biggest victim and villain. He can even flip back and forth between these. These feelings are HIGHLY ADDICTIVE* for them, and it is what they prioritize over EVERYTHING ELSE.
So it isn’t about making sense. It is about feeling grandiose and vulnerable. That’s it. It never had anything to do with black people in the first place, because the narratives he has around them werentreal anyway. It was about picking something he could get supply from.
_*Addictions aren’t really real but for the purpose of this conversation, supply is like an addictive drug
It is simply manipulation and bad faith arguments to control people. He doesn’t actually think anything either way about them, he is frustrated and this is the narrative he uses to express frustration and manipulation
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Fascinating. I never understood why the removedolding fetish (fixation? obsession?) came with such a strong overlap with, I guess, race play? Feels like a charitable way to put it.
I didn’t believe it at first, but any quick web search will show that removedolding largely is about the races of the people involved.
Which makes a lot more sense if seen through the framework you just described.
There’s also overlap with power narcissism (“might makes right”, nearly always ties in to physical narcissism and intellectual narcissism), money narcissism (classism), gender narcissism (misogyny), and savior narcissism (the stuff you see in charities and churches, evangelicalism).
And more ofc. There’s no limit to delusions someone can have.
All of that overlaps because there is intersectionality of narcissitic abusers, who then look for victims who safisfy that. We focus a lot of intersectionality of victims and not their abusers. But it’s why Ted Bundy picked young white attractive college girls with long straight dark hair to attack - all of those aspects represent his own narcissistic delusions, they are not the fault or problem of the victim, but of the abuser projecting onto the victim. They look for perfect dolls or teddy bears to project onto. Ted Bundy was otherwise perfectly safe to Anne Rice and most people he encountered because she wasn’t someone he could fully project onto - his narcissistic delusion enforcement wasn’t triggered by her.
So for eg it isn’t so much that Native American women are more likely to be murdered because they are Native women, but that there’s a widespread narcissistic belief set that murdering Native American women is not a concern, so much so that police and media and much of the public ignore it or actively aid it. And now we see this issue magnifying with the deportations - where are all the women? Latinos are just Native Americans who were colonized by Spanish speakers, after all.
But when we focus on abusers instead of the abused, the abusers realize they will get cut off from supply and they have a huge pushback for control.
And yeah it all ties into sexual stuff too
Never really thought of narcissisms in such a plural and mundane way. Is this a school of abnormal psychology or something?
Interesting lens to look through. I’ve always been a sucker for this kind of transactional analysis.
There is something called “collective narcissism,” and a lot of this info is in various studies and works. Here’s one study about gender narcissism: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11199-020-01193-3
Sure, yeah, but none of that explains what billionaires being “negrous” means? Like something something connect them with the same negative attributes that they keep going on about?
Can white billionaires be “negrous”?
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Okay yeah my bad for trying to look for rationality in racism, true enough.
I know I’m an idiot, but I actually still don’t understand it.
So there is no black people, that are billionaires. So that is not a problem. But he wants there to be a problem. So he just says that they act black. Which is a problem.
?
His hatred of blackness is based on a delusion, an unreality, a false narrative. Therefore, it doesn’t actually need to make sense. He just compulsively uses that narrative to either feel 1) validated, smart, amazing, grandiose or 2) hated, a monster, the biggest victim and villain. He can even flip back and forth between these. These feelings are HIGHLY ADDICTIVE* for them, and it is what they prioritize over EVERYTHING ELSE.
So it isn’t about making sense. It is about feeling grandiose and vulnerable. That’s it. It never had anything to do with black people in the first place, because the narratives he has around them werentreal anyway. It was about picking something he could get supply from.
_*Addictions aren’t really real but for the purpose of this conversation, supply is like an addictive drug
Where I’m lost is does this mean he thinks billionaires are too overly physically prowessed, or because they are insufficiently intellectual?
It is simply manipulation and bad faith arguments to control people. He doesn’t actually think anything either way about them, he is frustrated and this is the narrative he uses to express frustration and manipulation