• CCCP Enjoyer@lemmygrad.ml
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    4 months ago

    Ancient Masculinity

    Cool. Lets talk about hygiene in ancient times. Before makeup, shampoo, toothpaste and modern concepts of “femininity” existed.

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      I’ve thought about this before. I don’t think my sexual urges would have overcome the absolute ass stank produced before we discovered soap, regular bathing, and brushing teeth. I do seem to have a stronger sense of smell than most and find most people pretty gross already.

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        same… but then again if you never knew any different then maybe you’d be MORE attracted to stank than the average person? I’ve wondered that myself because i really can’t handle BO

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          Agreed, that’s what’s made me question it. Is it social conditioning? Idk, but I get unreasonably angry at people who are funky in inappropriate contexts. I still find it very unpleasant (including my own) in situations that are understandable/appropriate, but the anger isn’t there.

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            yeah im the same way

            today when my partner and i checked into a hotel the front desk guy smelled of BO stronger than I’ve ever smelled in my life and it immediately put me in a bad mood because it’s so offensive

            my partner commented as soon as we were outside that she couldn’t believe the pungent BO on that guy and she knew I was dying the whole time he was telling about our room and the breakfast etc

            i don’t get mad when someone steps off a plane and stinks because what can you do? but at work when your job is to interact with people is a different story

            again I’m far more sensitive to it than most others and i do my best to ignore it but today was a whole different level

    • SadArtemis🏳️‍⚧️@lemmygrad.ml
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      Ancient Greeks and Romans (as this guy clearly idealizes, considering the pfp) were dandy as fuck, tbh. Gay (or bi) as fuck, too. They liked their masculinity, and they fetishized it arguably a whole lot more than femininity, with predictable (sexual) results.

      The “ancient times” this guy so loves, never existed outside his mind- or perhaps they did, but not with the “ancient Romans/Greeks/most ancient ‘civilized’ folk.” The notions of “masculinity” he subscribes to, in fact, would probably have seen this guy derided (accurately in this case) as a “barbarian…”

      This guy’s notions of masculinity are not only inspired by, if not wholly formed from the “barbarian” asscrack of Eurasia (western and northwestern Europe, though I’d call the genuine barbarism of the west a more recent thing, a product of 500 years of unparalleled barbaric behavior, perhaps much more considering the Crusades, both northern and southern) as the ancient civilizations saw it- but they’re inspired by the rot that festered in that asscrack following Christianization, the collapse of the Roman Empire at the hands of “barbarians,” and the gradual abandonment of much of the actual merits of that time (hygiene and sanitation, for instance).