• masquenox@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    want to preserve the status quo,

    No different than liberals, then.

    Fascists want to subvert democracy

    All institutionalized political power is violently anti-democratic - it’s literally why you are forced to pay for violent paramilitaries to police you and protect the status quo from anything that can be called democratic with a straight face.

    Fascists are not unique in that regards.

    and install a completely new status quo

    The capitalists that funded Hitler and Mussolini into power did not do so because fascists “install a completely new status quo.” The CIA didn’t fund fascists into power all over the third world during the Cold War because fascists “install a completely new status quo.”

    They funded fascists into power because fascists protect the status quo. You know… the status quo liberals and conservatives all love so much?

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      4 months ago

      No different than liberals, then.

      Liberals can be conservatives. Opposite of conservatives are reformists.

      All institutionalized political power is violently anti-democratic

      Is voting anti-democratic? Because voting is political institution of democracy.

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        Liberals can be conservatives. Opposite of conservatives are reformists.

        All conservatives are liberals - that is, until they cross over into fascism territory. The people that get called “conservative” in the US do not disagree with liberalism in any fundamental way - they still believe in basic liberal ideas such as the fetishization of private property, capitalism, the (so-called) “free market,” and the ever-present “rule of law” (as dictated by a liberal, capitalist elite).

        Is voting anti-democratic?

        North Korea has voting. Apartheid South Africa had voting. I don’t see any liberals falling over themselves to describe those societies as “democratic” simply because of that… yet the one you exist in must be so simply because your media and your political racketeers told you it is?

        The bar for what counts as democracy or not is so damn low you need a deep-sea submersible just to see it.