Remember kids, Tankies wants to undermine democracy - same as facists.

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    Neither the anarchist revolutions in Ukraine nor Spain seemed to lack “practical steps”… what they did lack, however, was practical steps for turning into a reactionary elite as soon as they seized power - something the Bolsheviks and their ideological spawn seems to have no problems with.

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      They absolutely did, their inability to coordinate and make compromises during wartime absolutely led to their failures as revolutions.

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        Oh… being (respectively) stabbed in the back by Bolsheviks and being sabotaged by Stalin had absolutely nothing to do with it, eh?

        No, tankie… I don’t think you’ve read any anarchist literature at all.

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          Yes, the Spanish anarchists were unsuccessful because Stalin, and not because they refused to be integrated with the popular front(which even the fucking liberals joined), including militarily until the war was already well lost, which made coordinated actions against the fascists with the popular front impossible

          The lessons of the Spanish civil war dont reflect well on the anarchist movement there.

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            Yes, the Spanish anarchists were unsuccessful because Stalin

            Yes. That’s why, tankie. And no… they didn’t lose because they decided not to take orders from your outrageously incompetent and cynical two-faced realpolitking fetish object Stalin.

            Okay?

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              Okay so how much did you actually study the Spanish civil war because this comes off as really ignorant? Like, what books have you read on the subject that have led you to the conclusion that Stalin was controlling all of the Spanish Republicans except for the anarchists? You seem to deify Stalin much more than me, who generally considers him a very flawed leader who was a better revolutionary, but doesn’t consider him some octopus with his tentacles in literally everything.

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                I’m not the one demonstrating weaponized ignorance on the subject, tankie - you are.

                But hey… bring it on.

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                  But hey… bring it on.

                  It is a self dunk to get combative when someone asks you what books you’ve read on a subject you’re opining about

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                    Why would I compare books with you, tankie? You’ve already claimed to have read things you so obviously haven’t.

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          No, tankie… I don’t think you’ve read any anarchist literature at all.

          so now we are gonna start calling names. Cool, very mature.

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            Well, then… what do you think we should call them? Do remember… it was Marxist-Leninists themselves that came up with that term.