This video has a content warning: lots of flesh, organs, and milk, and assholes.

I am going to have to insist on a hypothesis:

Fascism is carnism in decline.

The youtuber there is not vegan, unfortunately, but I do appreciate the effort to point out a few of the associations between ketobros and carnivores to fascism. She manages to talk about class/status in the last third of the video; much less about hierarchy.

It’s also important to note that fascists don’t really have an ideology, so it’s not useful to focus just on ideology.

In the rat race of the “law of the jungle”, these proto and paleo fascists also focus on what’s now called “biohacking”. Well, the rich get real biohacking like that plant-based rich guy who wants to live forever, Bryan Johnson, and the rest get more and more pseudoscientific products; scams.

The thing with diets is that the if you’re not getting acute toxicity or poisons, you don’t really grasp how harmful it can be, especially if it’s not found in long-term population studies.

It’s such a pain in the moral ass. These meat clowns are harming themselves with their ignorance and LARP diets, and that forces me to figure out if I should warn them or if I should just let them earn Darwin awards. Either way, they are feeding a not-so-modern grifting economy, which spreads this contagion of foolishness to others.

The product fantasy of this “meat”, raw or not, from whatever animal, is a strange thing.

It is presented in this naturalistic fallacy wrapper, which wraps around an appeal to tradition fallacy wrapper, which actually wraps an empty box of hope that’s actually techno-hopium:

It is about a “meat technology”, and I don’t mean just zootechny.

It’s the technology of extracting scarce “dense nutrients”, nutrient mining. And so it carries the status of luxury… and not just any luxury, but luxury that provides “powers”.

The “powers” aspect is important for the fantasy, for biohacking. Much like the “nofap” types believe in powers from semen retention, the carnivores believe in other powers that they gain. And those powers are useful in the rat race, to dominate others, to win. In their fantasy.

Vegans aren’t immune from such beliefs, especially raw vegans; I bet that those are more likely to go from vegan to ex-vegan to carnivore on their “journey”.

Anyway, in the old days, this would be a talk about magical beliefs. They’re treating meat like an alchemical potion from fantasy games. In modern times, this is about pseudoscience, a power-up.

Any sufficiently obscure pseudoscience is indistinguishable from magic.

That’s the spirit of advertising these uber-carnist diets.

MEAT is sold to these “high-status males” (seeking) like those science-fiction pills from last century, those pills that contained all the nutrients and you could replace an entire meal by swallowing a couple of those pills.

They are not actually selling some true paleo diet, they’re selling a fantasy of the past packaged as science-fantasy present:

The 🥩red pill.

And the extra layer of grift, because it appeals to extremely ignorant people, is that it works on the conspiracy logic easily:

“the meat pill technology was always there, it was just being hidden by a globalist conspiracy!”

The retroactive implication that the meat power-gaining solution was always there is following the scam method of making the target think that they were always right, that they are smart without knowing that they are smart. That’s like a drug for fools and people who believe that they were born perfect.

Of course, the meat pill works only so much for marketing, so it’s usually accompanied by supplements.

The conspiracy aspects, which are also seen in the denial of science, are a very obvious funnel to fascist beliefs, with an ecofascist bent.

The retroactive implication of the grift, with its conspiracy, is that common one in fascism: the myth of being fallen. Whether it’s fallen from some paradise or fallen from space or fallen from the top of the “food chain”, it’s about The Fall.

In the paleo-conspiracy, humans, at least a certain… “subspecies” of humans, fell from the glorious past of maximally manly men when the evil Poaceae plants enslaved him 10000 years ago, and it has just gotten worse with industrial agriculture. The grifters promote a cure for The Fall, a restoration to well deserved glory.

The palingenesis consists of that rebirth as Fred Flintstone barbarian macho man model of extremely toxic masculinity.

The nation, however, isn’t necessarily identified by nationality. In some cases, it can be, if the nation is based on settler-colonialism which usually came with pastoralist entrepreneurs (very European). But the nation can simply be any cult, any religion, any ethnicity, any special tribe, united in spirit.

The Nation of Meatflakes.

These are not harmless movements, fascism is never harmless.