In an exclusive interview with NBC News’ “Meet the Press,” Trump also outlined a White House renovation he hopes to carry out — which he said he will pay for himself.

In an exclusive interview with NBC News’ “Meet the Press,” Trump also outlined a White House renovation he hopes to carry out — which he said he will pay for himself.

  • deranger@sh.itjust.works
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    3 hours ago

    Yes, hours are hours and fighter pilots and all the support staff involved need them too. When I was in the military the helicopter pilots would fly down to Florida and get lunch. They needed the hours and were going to by flying anyways.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      3 hours ago

      And when I was in the military we kept having to go out to sea so they could fly helicopters on and off the ship…

      Because you train as close to how you’ll fight as possible.

      If you’re talking people doing routine patrol flights, sure it’s the same as fighting. But no one is going to an airshow to watch a helicopter casually fly by.

      Like, do you have any frame of reference how much it costs to do that shit in a f16 let alone f35? It’s around 10k/hr just got an f16, and that’s not including the pilot or mechanics, just fuel and parts.

      It’s not taking your Prius to the grocery store, it’s taking the Lambo on a 12 hour drive for the hell of it.

      But like, you all know this isn’t a hypothetical we’re discussing, right?

      It’s literally propaganda:

      As recently as 2015, the Department of Defense was doling out millions to the NFL for such things as military flyovers, flag unfurlings, emotional color guard ceremonies, enlistment campaigns, and — interestingly enough — national anthem performances. Additionally, according to Vice, the NFL’s policy on players standing for the national anthem also changed in 2009, with athletes “encouraged” thereafter to participate. Prior to that, teams were not given any specific instructions on the matter; some chose to remain in the locker room until after opening ceremonies were completed. (It’s unclear whether the policy change was implemented as a direct result of any Defense Department contracts.)

      In 2015, Arizona Sens. Jeff Flake ® and John McCain ® revealed in a joint oversight report that nearly $5.4 million in taxpayer dollars had been paid out to 14 NFL teams between 2011 and 2014 to honor service members and put on elaborate, “patriotic salutes” to the military. Overall, they reported, “these displays of paid patriotism [were] included within the $6.8 million that the Department of Defense (DOD) [had] spent on sports marketing contracts since fiscal year 2012.”

      https://archive.thinkprogress.org/nfl-dod-national-anthem-6f682cebc7cd/

      I guess it was a decade ago, some people might not remember I guess.

      • deranger@sh.itjust.works
        1·
        7 minutes ago

        I think it’s cringe as propaganda, sure. I’m just saying financially, the expenditure is not bothering me. Pilots need hours and they do routine shit all the time. I don’t see this as significantly different. I don’t see that this needs to be singled out, personally. You’re free to disagree. Neither one of us is changing anything regardless of opinion.