Just realised this, most mastodon users who have had experience with groups think they are just bots that auto-boost any posts they are mentioned in.
This is kinda annoying me.
Like the @a.gup.pe ones? They are kind of autoboost bots, but they do have communities behind them and it’s annoying when people treat them like hashtags.
But I’d not use the term bots. They’re more like old-fashioned email reflectors: a message goes in, and it then gets sent to everyone on the list.
Because that’s what’s mastodon groups are (e.g. the a.gup.pe). Mastodon doesn’t have actual native groups, so bots-as-groups is a work around.
Mastodon doesn’t fully federate with Lemmy, so while you can partially interact with Lemmy users and communities, you can’t meaningfully partake in conversations here.
That’s because from a mastodon perspective, that’s what they are!
They’re basically the same thing as gup.pe groups to them
The closest thing to groups we have on mastodon really are just boost bots. It’s pretty annoying that mastodon doesn’t have more. But it’s pretty understandable that mastodon users would assume that.
I’m guessing the issue is with mastodon users at-ing multiple communities on Lemmy/etc creating unnecessary cross posts / duplicates?
Its not really an issue, since most people aren’t aware of the threadiverse, but people do think they are just glorified hashtags.
there are groups on mastodon?
You can post to them from mastodon. If you mention one (like @[email protected]) in a post.
Yes, when you edit a forumverse post (lemmy, mbin, piefed) it boosts those posts and create several duplicate of the same post. It pollute their timeline.
So it is either a bot or a bug for them. If you are on mastodon, try subscribing to @[email protected] and edit this post on lemmy.
Futhermore, comments aren’t grouped in the post. They are separated from their parent element. And you need to crawl back the comment to find its original post.
I hope mastodon will support the forumverse. The iceshrimp devs, currently rewritting iceshimp in C#, are working on it.
They have groups on their roadmap.
misskey is (slowly) adding federation to their groups.Yes, Mastodon will add it. Currently the closest group mastodon users have is our forumverse and a.gup.pe.
Iceshrimp is a fork of firefish, a misskey fork. But once they finish the rewritting, it won’t be a fork anymore.
Here is their roadmap : https://issues Iceshrimp.dev/issue/ISH-191/Magazines-support
And we know one of their dev. He is on the matrix group of jlai.lu and he confirmed working on lemmy and PieFed support. So by the end of this year we should see a tremendous increase of activity. 😍
This is amazing!
Yeah that sounds like a bug in how they handle the incoming events.
Is this not basically true, that that is how group federation works? Not sure what exactly you are trying to say.
They think they’re just bots, not actual groups with a community behind them.
