• sixty@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    I’m not a Linux hater (believe it or not), but I’m definitely not an evangelist either, and I think this eternal praise for Linux is just not warranted.

    If you want things to “just work” in any capacity, then you’re in for a bad time.

    Personally, I don’t want Windows 11 on my next PC, but I don’t have the time or the desire to get into the troubleshooting hell that unfortunately is Linux either.

    People say that anything is possible on Linux, but at the same time roast you for even thinking that it’s not gonna take enormous amounts of un-learning and self education when coming from Windows.

    Linux fanboys who don’t see it’s faults can be sort of toxic.

    I don’t doubt that I’ll get downvoted for this, but I think there need so be more differing opinions on Linux on here.

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      6 hours ago

      If you want things to “just work” in any capacity, then you’re in for a bad time.

      Most things do. Not everything obviously, but that’s true for Windows and everything else too. Technology is complex.

      People say that anything is possible on Linux, but at the same time roast you for even thinking that it’s not gonna take enormous amounts of un-learning and self education when coming from Windows.

      You see, this is the issue. Of course it’s going to behave differently. It’s an entirely different system. The issues come when people switch to Linux and expect Windows still. It isn’t Windows. You have to be ready and willing to learn how Linux works, and willing to adapt to what it does differently. For example, on Windows most applications check for updates when they launch and you have to go to a website to get them. On Linux, once a package is installed, your package manager handles all updates for you and you never have to worry about it again, besides just telling the package manager to update occasionally.

      Linux fanboys who don’t see it’s faults can be sort of toxic.

      Obviously it has faults. I don’t know anyone who says otherwise. Windows users who ignore that they’ve just gotten used to all of Window’s faults are horrible though. I spent a long time learning to avoid or fix the faults of Windows, and I stopped seeing them because that’s just the way things were. Once I switched to Linux and don’t have to deal with them anymore, they become clear. It’s not a user friendly OS. Users just got used to it because they had to. They can also get used to Linux of they want too, for free and without a company harvesting their data or trying to push stuff on them.

    • Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 day ago

      Linux users to Windows users with a question: “you can solve that by switching to Linux”

      Linux users to that same user when they switch to Linux and have a question: “why the fuck do you wanna do that? Go back to Windows.”

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        6 hours ago

        Almost always, Linux users try to help. However if someone comes over and wants to do things like Windows instead of learning how the new system works, they probably won’t help them with that.

        It’s a new system. It’s going to work differently. You have to be willing to learn and adapt to it, just as you had to do when learning Windows. No one is going to spend time helping you contort Linux to work like Windows when the solution is simple but you just have to be willing to learn it.

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        22 hours ago

        why the fuck do you wanna do that? Go back to Windows.

        Yeah that is basically my concern. However I figure I can always just buy a Windows licence if it doesn’t work out.

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          15 hours ago

          I can always just buy a Windows licence

          Or use massgrave.dev and get it for free.

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      23 hours ago

      This is one of the major bugbears - linux for a long time had a lot of fucking about required under the hood.

      This has not been the case for a while now, straight outta the box it works as painlessly as windows

      (Edit for full disclosure: non partisan here, I actually run mint, 10, 7, slack, ubuntu and 11 professionally and personally)