As the president begins his last international trip before the election, the fear in the crowd is that conflict in Gaza is tripping him up.

  • Patapon Enjoyer@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    edit-2
    5 months ago

    I don’t need him to change, I need him to do what everyone else is already doing for him, that is do something he doesn’t believe in so Joe Biden wins the election.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      5 months ago

      Okay, there’s also no point in waiting for him to do that either. If that’s what you’re waiting for in order to vote for him, you might as well just vote for Trump.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          5 months ago

          …or you can work on getting out the vote to prevent the guy who literally says he’s going to be a dictator get into office.

          Your bizarre “we have to force Biden to do something or fuck it all” attitude is so ridiculously unhelpful.

          • Patapon Enjoyer@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            4
            ·
            edit-2
            5 months ago

            Helpful? The defeatist attitude isn’t helpful either. Why are people being held to higher standards than the dipshit they’re being asked to vote for? It’s easier to get one old piece of shit to act to his own interests and do the bare fucking minimum and stop murdering children than to convince a lot of people to support murdering children.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              5 months ago

              How exactly is me saying that it behooves us to educate people a defeatist attitude? I’d say that “Biden needs to do this or else I won’t vote for him” is defeatist since you know he won’t do that.

              • Patapon Enjoyer@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                ·
                edit-2
                5 months ago

                you know he won’t do that.

                That attitude. If you think he prefers Trump over trying to at least appear like he doesn’t enjoy drinking orphan blood then your opinion of him is even lower than mine.

                • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  5 months ago

                  That’s not defeatism, that’s realism. Neither Trump or Biden will change America’s pro-Israel stance that America has had for decades and only a fool would think otherwise. So basing your vote on that and refusing to vote for him if he doesn’t is also foolish because it will result in a dictatorship.

                  “Either he does what I want or I let the dictator win” is as foolish as it gets.

                  • Patapon Enjoyer@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    3
                    ·
                    5 months ago

                    Why can’t he change his own stance? It would be very foolish of him to allow a dictatorship to take hold because of that.