An unprecedented nearly 5,000 migrants have died at sea in the first five months of 2024 trying to reach the Spanish Canary Islands, according to a report released by migration rights group Walking Borders on Wednesday.
Between Jan. 1 and May 31, 4,808 people died on the Atlantic voyage to the Canaries after departing from Morocco, Mauritania, Senegal and Gambia, making it the deadliest route between Africa and Spain, with 95% of migrant deaths, according to the group.
Arrivals to the archipelago in that period soared five times to over 16,500 from a year ago, Interior Ministry data showed.
You’re the one that said they are all coming over because everyone around them is dying.
Go prove everyone coming into Europe illegally is because it isn’t safe for then to be anywhere else.
I did not use the word ‘all’ or the word ‘everyone.’ That would definitely be a lie.
Now, you have claimed that there is plenty of video and clear documentation. This is your last chance to provide them before your comments get deleted for violating the misinformation rule (rule 6).
Lack of evidence isn’t misinformation. You being ignorant isn’t misinformation. If someone has been reported by the news and I mention it. It isn’t misinformation.
So if they are coming over because they are dying… You then imply through a sarcastic means that no one would come over for anything less than life or death.
So what is it? Are you saying people would come over for less or wouldn’t? If they would come over for less maybe they would come over for what? Money?
It’s kinda sad that when pressed in a reality you don’t agree with you are going to abuse your power and silence me just because you don’t want to be wrong.
You’re really not worth this because I don’t think anything will change and the comment will still probably get deleted. But at least it will amuse me.
https://www.cfr.org/article/europes-migration-dilemma
“Europe is also a magnet for migrants seeking better economic opportunities”
https://www.migrationwatchuk.org/news/2021/12/20/deliberate-destruction-of-identity-documents
If they refugees and not looking for money why they need to destroy passports?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66132875
“More than 80% of the group are unaccompanied minors, aged under 18. Many of the boys had started their journeys years earlier, when they left home hoping to make money to send back to their families.”
There you go :) proved it’s not misinformation.
I don’t have the opportunity to go through video archives now so you can either take my first hand account I seen them and linked with the news articles giving the same information or I’ll say now that I don’t have video evidence at hand, just the articles
I would appreciate you honouring me with taking the time to show how people are coming only to avoid death and nothing less? As you made out.
Edit: here is another
https://www.euronews.com/2024/04/10/canary-islands-sees-surge-of-migrant-arrivals-via-west-african-route
“They probably heard that they then have a guarantee of achieving their goal: to get a residence permit, a work permit, training or, above all, work.”
Thank you for actually providing something approaching evidence for your claims. Of course, your claims discount the fact that those families themselves will die if that money isn’t earned, so it’s still a life-or-death situation, but at least you backed up your claim rather than just stated it as if it were true.
I have no idea why you think destroying a passport has any relevance to anything though. You’ve brought it up more than once as if it has to do with economic migration.
Sorry could you provide evidence that people are coming over for life or death situations please? Do you not hold yourself to the same standard as others? Your comments look like misinformation from my side.
Economic migrants aren’t refugees. If you burn your passport you can claim to be a refugee. There was reports of people flying from Pakistan to north Africa destroying their passports and travelling to Europe illegally for monetary reasons, not because of life and death.
And no I’m not going to go find that for you because I have already proven my word and I’m waiting for you to do the same. If this comment and this comment alone needs proving or it will get labeled as misinformation then I’m not going to waste my time on it. If you don’t trust and and don’t want to check me, delete it.
I literally gave you evidence in my first response with the DW article, which you apparently didn’t read.
No you didn’t.
I did read it. That is talking about refugees looking at asylum. You understand the difference right?
Asylum seekers are covered under international law. That is about legal movements.
We aren’t talking about that we are talking about people illegally crossing borders. It seems like you are trying to make out one thing is something it isn’t. It seems to me you are trying to make out illegal migrants are refugees. That seems a lot like misinformation to me and you need to provide sources for your claims.
That’s why I’m asking for a source. Are you saying all illegal migrants are refugees even though I have showed evidence of them just doing it for money?
You’re misleading people.
You do know that we have no idea whether or not someone is seeking asylum when they’re dead, right?
No, I’m saying you have no idea what reason they’re coming over for in general, you’re basing your claim on TV and YouTube videos. And I’m saying they wouldn’t risk their lives if they weren’t desperate.
The funny thing is, you don’t realize that if someone is doing something for money which might kill them, they really need that money. It’s a life or death situation, if not for them then for their families.
Now, are you ever going to explain the significance of burning a passport?
So all the claims you make are unfounded and not backed up by any evidence or source and go contrary to what I said.
Your only explanation is a feeling you have.
Face it if I did that you would have deleted all my comments. I based my comments and sources on reporters from some of the most well regarded news sites. One rule for you, one rule for everyone else. I did everything you asked of me and you done nothing, you’re moving the goalposts for yourself and you won’t do anything to back up your claims. You just want to argue but won’t admit I provided everything to back up my claims are yours are unfounded.
Fuck man I did. If you have a country that does not have refugees you can burn your passport and lie and say you are from a different a country to gain refugee status. Legally you refugee but actually they are just economic migrants abusing the system and breaking the law.
This conversation is over until you provide something that’s more than just your feels.