This is a bit of a different situation. This is an emperialist war, and Ukrainian side fights for the fundamental right to exist, and Russian side fights for their selfish interests and to kill people.
A big portion of people on Russian side are there willingly, they made a choice knowing full well all the consequences, and had multiple opportunities to make another, morally and materially correct decision, but didn’t.
I consider “but I need money” not a good excuse for deciding to go murder countless number of people. I can absolutely sympathise with being very poor russian with no real hopes for social mobility, hell I’ve been one most of my life. What I can not excuse is the decision to go kill someone for a chance to escape it. I could not aggree with that in the 90th, when people were killing each other on the streets for money, I can’t agree with it now.
Those poor sods who received a mobilisation order and decided to go - well, the fine for refusing that is 3k rubles (~30 bucks). They were forced with a fine of $30 and decided that going to another country to kill people is a preferred action.
The only people who aren’t there willingly and knowingly, are the conscripts who were forced to sign the contract under the violence, and chronical alcoholics who lost the free will long ago. This is a very shitty situation, but the state of the army isn’t exactly great, those people have both opportunities and moral obligation to run away.
If you need food to feed children, you find a job. If you decide to become mercenary in an unjust war, to go kill other people’s children, you lose the privilege of having this excuse.
This is a bit of a different situation. This is an emperialist war, and Ukrainian side fights for the fundamental right to exist, and Russian side fights for their selfish interests and to kill people.
A big portion of people on Russian side are there willingly, they made a choice knowing full well all the consequences, and had multiple opportunities to make another, morally and materially correct decision, but didn’t.
Nah, I dont think people willingly go to war. Definitely not at this point.
Best case, they’re doing it because they’re poor and needed the money. Worst case they were forced to fight under threat of State violence.
I consider “but I need money” not a good excuse for deciding to go murder countless number of people. I can absolutely sympathise with being very poor russian with no real hopes for social mobility, hell I’ve been one most of my life. What I can not excuse is the decision to go kill someone for a chance to escape it. I could not aggree with that in the 90th, when people were killing each other on the streets for money, I can’t agree with it now.
Those poor sods who received a mobilisation order and decided to go - well, the fine for refusing that is 3k rubles (~30 bucks). They were forced with a fine of $30 and decided that going to another country to kill people is a preferred action.
The only people who aren’t there willingly and knowingly, are the conscripts who were forced to sign the contract under the violence, and chronical alcoholics who lost the free will long ago. This is a very shitty situation, but the state of the army isn’t exactly great, those people have both opportunities and moral obligation to run away.
It’s not “i need money”
It is “i need food to feed my children”
If you need food to feed children, you find a job. If you decide to become mercenary in an unjust war, to go kill other people’s children, you lose the privilege of having this excuse.