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It’s nice to see the senate opposition functioning.
Edit: 18 hours of holding the senate floor, giving voice to the american people. Lots of tears as american suffering is read out loud for the congressional record. Testiment from Americans across the country. This is the voice of the people. Please click the link, share and watch. The media needs to know we care about the opposition more than we care about trump rambling on a plane about fort knox.
Maybe if more than 20% of voters showed up and voted in the primaries instead of incessantly removeding about term limits, we wouldn’t have so many capitalist centrists in Congress.
What country do you think we’re talking about?
Obama proved that turnout improves when politicians make specific promises about the things they’re going to fix and the only message folks got from the Harris campaign was that everything is fine and nothing needs fixing.
Nobody’s removeding about the term limits on presidents, we removed about term limits in congress because it’s the only way to get the dinosaurs holding back progress to step down.
We’re talking about the US Congress. Congressional primaries average ~20% voter turnout.
Yeah, because America isn’t a democracy. It only pretends to be one.
There’s no fixing this without rewriting the constitution and there’s no way to do that when our politics are this dysfunctional.
We directly elect Congress. My point was poor primary turnout results in more of the same. Your argument is pointless criticism. Throw your hands up in disgust somewhere else.
The poor primary turnout isn’t the cause of the problem, it’s the inevitable result of an electoral system that is designed to prioritize money over people.
Merely improving turnout is not our goal, at best it is a means to an end. The actual end goal is the establishment of a government that represents the interests of all, but there’s no way to get there from here even with 100% turnout.
I’m not “throwing my hands up in disgust”, I’m offering a clear-eyed perspective on the challenges we face and the hardships that must be endured to achieve democracy.
If your organization isn’t treating the U.S. government as a threat actor then it can be safely ignored. If it is, then your opsec shouldn’t allow you to talk about it online.
Sure, idealism is great, but none of that will happen by November 2026. I’m suggesting we use the system that is already available to us before condemning its efficacy. Why is that sentiment worthy of contest?
Because the system is designed to give people like us zero levers of control.
The only idealist here is the person sugesting that reform from within the system is possible.
It does though. I agree with most of your statments in this thread. We don’t need to re-write the constitution. However we could if we wanted too. We can’t get 70% of america to agree on whats best for everyone. That’s not the government thats us. I’m open to hearing causes and solutions, but to act like we don’t have power is false. our government gives us power. 70% of the country doesn’t know how use it, or we can’t agree on how to use it. That’s my assessment anyway.
Social security is overwhelmingly popular but the majority of people can’t vote to save it. So when we finally cut social security and no one even votes out their congressmen I think we will discover its not the political system its us.
Maybe because there’s nobody to turn out for?
There’s no voting our way out of this
I think there are some good arguments for not having term limits in congress. One of the most convincing is a new congressman is more likely to be manipulated through ignorance versus the entrenched interest of an older one.
We need AGE limits. 80 year olds can’t do anything more than consult in the government. If the DNC loves 80 year old dinosaurs so much, they can pay them to consult younger congress people. I value the wisdom of pelosi but i need youthful vigor of AOC. AOC has like the right amout of experience to be effective in government, we wouldnt want to Term limit AOC before her time to shine ya know?
I agree with both age and term limits. My comment was meant to illustrate the hypocrisy in people complaining about the lack of efficacy of a system that they don’t even use.
Yea there’s a lot of that going on in here. Mind boggling how so many people can criticize a government they are willfully ignorant of. The people most desperate to exercise their political will can’t seem to manage to figure out how. I’m trying to help them. we need that kind of passion.
I’m with you there. I’ve been doing that since the 90s. Most of my friends are Gen-Xers. Wanna talk about a frustrating group to engage?🙄
Yea im that age as well where big brother and friends are young GenX knuckle heads. Gen Z is REALLY hard to communicate with. the women are super intelligent and articulate and the boys leave a lot to be desired in intellectual conversation. The younger they are the more this stand out. I’m hoping gen A is based.
GenX has had a really disappointing political evolution. The punk rock boys i looked up to are extinct.
Agreed. A piece of me died when they closed CBGB’s. It seems like the grunge apathy stuck around far too long too.
We need more music for the revolution. The revolution needs some culture.