• YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub
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    Every single person sent to El Salvador were innocent. Not a single one of them had their due process! This is all bullshit. ICE must be destroyed

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      Thats the thing. Rounding up people from the street will not catch any criminals (legally speaking), by definition: if they committed a crime, and a judge deemed them guilty, they would be in jail or they would be fugitives. In either case, they are not unknowns, and authorities must’ve already knew about them. Getting people randomly off the street, you cannot, legally speaking, be catching criminals.

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      Yep. Innocent until proven guilty, and not a single one of them was so much as indicted, much less charged or convicted. Blatant disregard for the constitution as well as human rights, everyone all the way up the chain of command needs to be prosecuted for this.

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          You’d need four twenty Republican senators to convict. I can’t imagine that happening.

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            It’d still be something. Bemoaning “oh there’s no point because it’s hopeless” gives these fuckers more fuel because the opposition is just etting it happen without any complaints.

            It’d be like a cop kneeling on your neck and not bothering to scream “help I can’t breathe! they’re killing me!” because you’ve just accepted that they’re going to suffocate you to death.

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              It would be something. Would it be the most effective use of their time? Unlikely.

              “Something must be done, this is something, therefore this must be done” is a joke, not something to take seriously.

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              The works are sufficiently gummed already. Any path forward seems to involve action only implied in the constitution. Maybe a rereading of the Declaration of Independence is in order as well.

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              Impeachment comes from the house. But yes it’s actually 20 Republican senators to convict since it’s two-thirds, not a simple majority (assuming all 45 Democrats and two independents vote to convict).

              20 is definitely not happening. Even in the last two trials, they only got one vote in one trial.

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            So were the 50+ votes to repeal the ACA when the Republicans had a minority control but they still did it to send a message.

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              Further demonstrating how vacuous and generally shitty they are. Even the backward degenerate voters want the fucking ACA.

              Impeachment has been of no consequence for half a fucking century.

              Maybe we ought to start doing shit that hasn’t been proven ineffective.