• thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      hear me out, i may be less for adding more religious holidays.

      this is based on trying to use b and h as a professional service. they close for EVERY Jewish holiday. there’s so many of them. so many more then Christian holidays that others close for. AND they still close for those Christian holidays.

      it makes them unpredictable and hard to use. if they also started taking off Muslim holidays they’d be closed every 2 days… that’s just too much. i don’t think we as a society can afford to take that many holidays.

      it’s very hard to explain to you boss why we have to delay because the partner we’re contracted with is closed until Monday because of a holiday that your boss has never heard of.

      • Gabe Bell@lemmy.worldOP
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        10 months ago

        This would be my argument for allowing people of various religions to take their religious holidays, but not require everyone to take them (if they don’t want to).

        So (and these will all be hypothetical because my knowledge of holidays across various religions is pretty poor – sorry) :-

        Imagine there are four main religions in the UK – Potterism, Everdinery, Swannism and Sherlockian.

        Potterism celebrates the 31st of July, 31st of October, the 2nd of May, the 1st of September and the 19th of September as its holy days.

        Everdinery celebrates the 10th of March, the 20th of May, the 31st of August, the 9th of January and the 5th of July.

        Swannism celebrates the 3rd to the 5th of May, the 10th of August, the 12th of September and the 12th of December.

        And Sherlockian celebrates the 1st of February, the 9th of March, the 12th of June, the 24th of September and the 10th of October.

        Along with all these, all four religions celebrate the 31st of December, the 1st of January and the 23rd of August. Just because.

        (Really making this up as I ago along).

        The celebrants of each religion can take their days off as a holiday (without using up their paid holiday allowance), but businesses do not have to close. Bank holidays become a thing of the past.

        Schools ignore them, and school holidays are arranged around more sensible times (summer holidays, spring holidays, winter holidays).

        Religion is taken out of public life more or less altogether.

        Now I accept that in “real life” this will be more complicated, but businesses can adapt for Jewish, Muslim, Christian and other workers and would not need to shut down on such a wide scope

        The only exception might still be Christmas, because that has become more of a secular thing than a religious one.

    • Gabe Bell@lemmy.worldOP
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      10 months ago

      I don’t even want more holidays. I just want them spaced out better :)

      (Every public holiday bar 1 occurs within 22 weeks and 1 day (December 25th to the 27th of May in this case).

      They all occur within the last week of December, the first week of January and (generally) the first/second week of April.

      How about instead of clumping them altogether, we get one every two months or so. That would be far better :)

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        10 months ago

        This is how it is where I live, it’s great. There’s a holiday every month except for April and June, and in September there’s two.

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          10 months ago

          Maybe for some lucky folks. I get Christmas Day. If the boss is feeling generous hey may let us leave early on Christmas Eve. We’re off for Easter, but since we’re closed on Sunday anyway it’s not actually a holiday.

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    My da hosts a Bible study group in their home, and recently I glanced at a booked they were going through called “The War on Christianity” or some shit like that. I just gave a short laugh and said “Oooooh, you poor oppressed Christians!” before my mother gave me “the look” that said “I know how you feel, but please don’t start shit right now.”

    These people have no idea what oppression is. They think that people having negative opinions of Christianity is “oppression”. They think that folks fighting for abortion rights is “oppression” against Christians. They think that folks telling them that they gave no intention to get involved in their religion is “oppression”.

    They are still allowed to gather freely, to hold positions of power, own homes and businesses, proselytize, protest, etc.

    They’re just mad that they’re finally being called out for their harmful, hateful, and bigoted viewpoints. It’s “oppression” because they can’t force everyone else to follow their rules.

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      I was curious, so i googled. Was it The Global War on Christianity?

      Christianity is illegal in parts of the world. I can understand why Christians in America would read a book about it

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        And in many parts of the world they are doing irreparable harm.

        Plus, they only buy that book to feel sorry about themselves. US Christians have a persecution fetish.

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    10 months ago

    Or, you know, none of that bullshit? We could just let it slip back into the primordial muck with superstition and shitting into our bare hands… But, no. We like our invisible sky daddies and not being collectively intelligent. 🫥

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      10 months ago

      Say this when it’s a country’s primary religion on the line, not when some minorities want equal rights for their religions.

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        No. Say it always for all religion. Fuck the entire system of mind control. Don’t cherry pick your oppressors, citizen.

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          Unless the country’s primary religion is on the line, you are not going against all religion - you are going against the specific religion in question (or religions). Systems resit change, so if you advocate for “let’s not give this minority’s religion equal rights, and instead take away the rights of the primary religion” only the first part will get implemented.

          Analogy: Whenever there is a talk about legalizing same sex marriage, someone will always argue that the state should not get involved in any kind of marriage. Does this position have merit on on its own? Yes. But when presented in the contest of same sex marriage legalization, is it anything but pure support of continuing the oppression of same sex couples?