The comments by Khalil al-Hayya came amid a stalemate in months of cease-fire talks.

A top Hamas political official told The Associated Press the Islamic militant group is willing to agree to a truce of five years or more with Israel and that it would lay down its weapons and convert into a political party if an independent Palestinian state is established along pre-1967 borders.

  • Count042@lemmy.mlEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Terrorism is a verb.

    Terrorists are people that commit terrorism.

    Official count is now 42,000 dead Palestinians, but that is because the ability to count the dead no longer exists. The number is probably closer to 100,000

    Israeli doctors have come forward to detail how amputations are regular for Palestinian prisoners who have been zip tied for months now.

    Any definition of terrorism that includes Hamas, also includes the Israeli government.

    Edit: recognizing your username, now is when you’ll call me antisemitic.

      • pewter@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        You just got downvoted for correctly realizing that terrorism is literally a noun. Strange times.

          • Count042@lemmy.mlEnglish
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            2 months ago

            I didn’t downvote you, but I didn’t understand your comment are all. But, I probably couldn’t diagram a sentence anymore.

            But, at the risk of being stupid here, wouldn’t terrorist be the noun and terrorism the verb?

            Terrorist is someone who uses violence against a civilian population to enact political change, and terrorism is the act of using violence against a civilian population to enact change?

            • AmidFuror@fedia.io
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              2 months ago

              Thanks for asking. I respect that.

              Terrorism is a noun. It is the use or act of political violence to create fear in a populace. It’s a little tricky because those sound like doing something, which would be a verb. But we’re describing the thing those people are doing.

              Terrorists do acts of terrorism. People do things. What do they do? They terrorize. They terrorized. They will terrorize. She terrorizes. That’s the verb.

              Terroristic would be the adjective.

              • Count042@lemmy.mlEnglish
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                2 months ago

                Huh, okay, I think I see where you are coming from.

                The only issue I have with trouble with understanding is that I don’t think terrorism and terrorize can be considered the same word.

                If I’m a terrorist, I do a terrorism, I don’t terrorize.

                Similarly, I terrorize my cats when the get poop on a paw with water, but I don’t commit a terroristic act against them when I wash their feet

                Of course, I think most of that comes from creaturely a poorly defined word with an amorphous meaning that is based off of, but isn’t, a similar word.

                Terror may be a root word for terrorism, but I fell like the definition has changed enough that the conjugation is different

                I honestly don’t understand how people who think this is easy can think math is hard.

                Than you got your previous response, too. I did find out useful.

                Edit: to be clear, I am fully aware I have no idea what I’m talking about here, language wise, so the above ‘I think I can see where you were coming from’ was meant more as a ‘I think I understand’

                • AmidFuror@fedia.io
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                  2 months ago

                  It’s fair to say “terrorize” isn’t a verb that fits well. But then we’re left with “doing” being the verb in “doing terrorism.” And “terrorism” in that context is a thing - a noun.

                  Most “isms” are nouns. Mormonism, romanticism, communism, terrorism. Romanticists romanticize and are different than romantics who romance. Communists don’t really commune. There’s really no Mormonizing.

      • Count042@lemmy.mlEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Based on time under starvation conditions, the mass graves the IDF seems constitutionally incapable of not leaving behind, and counts of missing family members.

        It is interesting that Lemmy is so small that I can recognize the usernames of genocide defenders so easily.

        Tell me: is there any line crossed, any action taken by the IDF that you wouldn’t automatically defend?

        Do you think it is right that Palestinians prisoners should be zip tied long enough that their limbs die and need too be cut off?

        • DdCno1@kbin.social
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          2 months ago

          Based on time under starvation conditions, the mass graves the IDF seems constitutionally incapable of not leaving behind, and counts of missing family members.

          Can you share your methodology of calculating this number? You are not basing this on anything but your gut-feeling. Given how most of your comments consist of blindly parroting propaganda instead of even trying to form any in-depth understanding of this topic, that’s not surprising. Hell, you once attacked me for trying to bring nuance into this debate, at which point I was done with you for that day, because could there be anything more intellectually bankrupt?

          is there any line crossed, any action taken by the IDF that you wouldn’t automatically defend?

          Sure thing. If orders to deliberately exterminating Palestinians came to light, that would certainly be it. Those should exist if the goal of the IDF, as frequently claimed by people like you who make up fantasy numbers to then feel outraged about, was genocide. Of course, this clashes with various efforts of the same IDF to prevent Palestinian civilians from being harmed, which is kind of odd, don’t you think?

          So either they are using e.g. roof knocking and a whole range of other warning measures just for PR-purposes (even though it significantly hurts their military efforts and their PR - Hamas can escape and the moment any building is being roof-knocked, dozens of cameras are immediately on it in order to film it, with lots of people feeling perfectly safe, trusting that this building and only this building will be hit; strange that) or the truth isn’t as simple as you are so desperately trying to make it be. You haven’t exactly been writing particularly well thought out comments on this topic at any point. Not that this limits your enthusiasm for your self-righteous preaching. Dunning, meet Kruger.

          Do you think it is right that Palestinians prisoners should be zip tied long enough that their limbs die and need too be cut off?

          No, but good job trying distracting from your fantasy numbers. This might constitute criminal neglect. Those responsible should be punished and measures should be undertaken to prevent this from occurring. While internal review processes are far from perfect at the IDF, they do at least exist and are being applied. Two senior officers responsible for ordering the recent air strikes on aid workers were sacked, for example. The same could happen here as well.