Summary
U.S. airstrikes on Houthi-held areas of Yemen killed at least 31 and injured 101, according to the Houthi health ministry.
The strikes followed renewed Houthi attacks on shipping, which they say are in response to Israel’s blockade of Gaza.
A Houthi spokesperson vowed retaliation, stating, “Our response will not be delayed.” Trump warned Iran to stop supporting the Houthis, while Iran distanced itself from the group.
The conflict has disrupted Red Sea shipping, prompting the U.S. to redesignate the Houthis as a terrorist organization earlier this month.
Oh I remember this episode.
- attack middle eastern nations
- middle eastern nations can not match strength of the US
- eventually middle eastern uses terrorism to show that you should not mess with them
- terrorism allows for authoritarian power grab in US
- ???
- profit
- Spend 22 trillion dollars occupying a country and achieving noting. Then leave.
- profit (for the military industrial complex)
that’s too slow. Marshal law by end of week after the invasion of Mexico.
Houthis the leaders of the free world. What a timeline.
Ah yes, one of Iran’s proxies - leaders of the free world and gender apartheid /s
Ffs people…
Yes, the people standing up to genocide.
Say some words about headscarves and trans people while America and Israel are actively massacring the very people you are pretending to defend… You must care so much about them.
It’s a lot less simple than you’re trying to make it out to be. I don’t support what Israel and the US are doing either, for your information.
Just don’t see how Iran or any of their proxies should be idolized considering their longstanding abuse of human rights among even just their own.
They do much worse than just put women in headscarves, if you’re not aware.
It is a lot simper than you are trying to make it out to be. People hold a country of people who are victim of the previous genocide and is now standing up to a new one to an impossibly high standard, while the country genociding all over the world is never held to the same standard.
The only reason it is not black and white because it is brown and white.
So… you’re just cool with the whole gender apartheid thing? Islam and Christianity need to go with both - the world would be a lot better off
It should go without saying, obviously genocide is awful and I don’t support that.
Edit: and not partaking in gender apartheid doesn’t sound like too crazy of a standard to hold a society to with its own people…
America bad therefore… 🙄
America and Israel are conducting a genocide. Therefore the people risking their lives to stand up to America and Israel are better than America.
What, participating in one genocide isn’t enough for Trump? Now he has to join Bonesaw’s one against the Yemenis too?
The US has been selling weapons to Saudi Arabia for a long time and hasn’t stopped even with the genocide in Yemen starting in 2014. There are 3 Presidents that are complicit in this, so he isn’t really joining the genocide just ramping up US involvement.
I wonder how long the world is going to be okay with America using deadly violence in the Middle East as a way to mask and deflect from domestic turmoil? At least our “coalition of the willing (to commit war crimes)” is getting smaller.
ehhh… fuck it, let’s earn some downvotes.
I’m really not going to lose sleep over a group that intentionally targets civilian ships staffed, with you know, innocent civilians.
Trump sucks. But Iran’s upper leadership also sucks, and they’re funding this.
It’s hilarious that your name is Robin Hood but you’re completely against imposing a blockade to stop a genocide
Did Robin Hood go out and pepper innocent people with arrows? Was that the moral of the story?
Most ship crew members come from neutral developing countries, such as the Philippines. Maybe their lives don’t mean much to you, but they mean a lot to me. Sorry, I’m never going to condone attacking innocent civilians.
Do you think they are civilian vessels operated by mom and pop shops? They are owned by those innocent billionaires Robin loved so much.
Boats have been warned not to travel through the Red Sea until Israel lifts its illegal blockade on Gaza.
What does any of that have to do with with the workers on the boats? Most of whom come from developing countries and are just trying to feed their families?
Astounding.
Most of whom come from developing countries and are just trying to feed their families?
Shame billionaires are using those workers as human shields and send them through a blockade. Those millions in lost revenue must affect only the poor worker and not the owner of the ship.
Yeah, and it’s a shame that people, especially from developing countries, are forced into these situations due to economic realities.
Stop mentioning the billionaires. They are not important in this conversation. They are not on the the ships, and the only impact these events have on them is pushing up insurance prices and other costs but even that is a drop in the bucket.
And stop acting like you’re some sort of hero. Given your position, I highly doubt you actually care any more about these workers then then billionaires. Both you and them seem to be looking at 'em as disposable.
Robin Hood committed crimes to help people in need. What’s worse? Taking cargo vessels and holding their crew ransom or genociding millions of people? Fighting evil is usually ugly, if playing nice was effective we wouldn’t be here
yeah, robin hood wasn’t out attacking innocent people.
We’re all the heroes in our own story but you’re sitting here trying to defend attacking innocent civilians. I hope some day you’re able to realize how messed up that is.
How do you feel about what’s happening to the Palestinians? if that was happening to you would you want someone to disrupt supply chains to help you?
disrupt supply chains? Sure. Kill innocent civilians? Honestly, probably I would want them to kill whoever to save me, but I’d know that I was morally wrong, if not outright evil.
The mass violence experienced by the Palestinians has been horrific. The October 7th attack was barbaric. Prior actions in recent times by Israel helped pave the way for that attack. Ditto for Hamas. There certainly are and were evil persons among Hamas. Likewise, there are evil people in Israel in high places.
holding their crew ransom
You seem to have hallucinated a Disney movie version of events.
If you want to be pro Houthi attacks in the Red Sea that’s your prerogative, but don’t tell yourself bedtime stories about how that particular conflict is playing out.
They didn’t hold the crew ransom, they blew them up with missiles and caused such a huge turmoil in supply chains that the cost of shipping went up by shitloads and affected the livelihoods of workers all across the world and affected cost of goods for consumers all over the world
That’s just how blockades work; what else do you want them to do?
Hard to argue that this is really a blockade. Maybe in the broadest sense. It’s a violent rebel group attacking civilians in hopes of punishing political rivals with no other clear objective. That’s basically the definition of terrorism.
The Houthis lifted the blockade as soon as aid was allowed into Gaza. The only valid argument was if the blockade would continue despite Israel lifting the forced starvation on Gaza.
What do you imagine happens when a ship violates a blockade? Because I doubt they just get a slap on the wrist.
It’s a violent rebel group attacking civilians in hopes of punishing political rivals with no other clear objective.
So first, the claim they’re a “violent rebel group” is based on the American claim that their preferred government is the legitimate government of Yemen. That aside the Houthi blockade is meant to force Israel to let aid into Gaza, not just “punish them”. If that’s terrorism then every act of war is terrorism.
Heh. They were once considered American allies. Until we didn’t need their help anymore.
It might be a blockade if they were attempting to block arms or other goods to Israel, but they have long since abandoned that pretense.
By international law, a blockade must be enforced by naval ships, and violating vessels must be duly warned before being boarded and redirected. The crew and cargo may be captured or released according to the relevant laws.
They are just launching rockets at any vessel in range.
Even if you somehow consider the Houthis the legitimate government of Yemen (I think maybe Iran and a few others do), that just makes it state terrorism.
By international law aid must be getting into Gaza. International law is a useless concept and is selectively mentioned when useful to the empire. Else completely ignored.
The Houthis will follow international law as soon as the other nations do so by lifting the siege on Gaza.
Their targeting of ships was also not random. Most of the ships have turned out to be connected to either Israel or America. This is often obscured by the media by only mentioning the flag it was under.
Three killed in Houthi attack on cargo ship off Yemeni coast
The owners and managers of the True Confidence, who purchased the vessel just days ago from US private equity group Oaktree Capital, gave details of the deaths and injuries in a statement on Thursday. The Houthi rebel group claimed responsibility for the attack on Wednesday evening local time.
I’m not sure what you are arguing here. Clearly we agree this is not a blockade, and your “evidence” that the terrorism is somehow valid is that one of the boats used to belong to an American company?
Okay so I brushed up on the Houthi blockade and fair enough, I have no idea what the hell these guys are doing. I was going to argue that it’s at least mostly targeted (in which case I’d have said the ends justify the means) but it’s just not so I’ll have to concede this one.
well, I dunno, maybe not blockade?
Uh… You do know why they’re imposing a blockade right?
A blockade doesn’t work if you can’t defend it. They can do whatever they want but actions have consequences.
A blockade doesn’t work if you can’t defend it.
Okay? It worked the last time they did it so there’s no reason to believe it won’t work now.
Damaging trade through the Suez effects everyone negatively. If anything this will be one of his more popular moves.
Yes someone please think of the Economy! /S
Yes?
- person with no financial burdens
Ah no your poor financial burdens. If only there was another way to live.
I mean, literally, if only. Not the dude you’re arguing with. Am another dude.
Sure we can dream up other ways to live, and we collectively could achieve them. But for many, many people it’s simply not possible right now
As much as I hate Trump, the Houthis are a prime example of FAFO. Their smart move would have been to lay quiet while Trump continues to build up his own hate club at home. Instead, they’re delaying and possibly averting an impeachment by rallying some behind his actions.
Liberal try not to defend genocide and support Republicans difficulty level impossible
So first, nobody in America cares about the non-Palestinian Middle East enough for “some” to rally behind him just because he bombed some Yemenis. Second, you think Trump is ever going to be impeached? That’s wishful thinking with all three branches of government controlled by the GOP. Third, why the hell would the Houthis care about Trump or want him impeached? If anything an incompetent authoritarian twat like Trump is everything they could ask for. Finally, you want them to just munch on some popcorn while Israel starves Gaza to death?
Actually, MAGAts are the kind of people who view “bombing some Yemenis” - or bombing anyone, as a “yee-haw 'Merica” show of strength. Trump knows this and will toss bombs all day if it firms his base. He just needs a target. Hi, Houthis!
I mean yeah, to be extent they care they definitely like it, but I also think Yemenis are very low on the list of people MAGAts would like to bomb. And again, if Trump bombing Yemen will help him consolidate power, then Yemen is the one benefiting from the bombings.
nobody in America cares about the non-Palestinian Middle East enough for “some” to rally behind him just because he bombed some Yemenis
Your average American does care about the economy and price of common items, oil, etc, and Houthis bombing the most important trade route in the world directly effects that.
America is already fucking itself economy wise, I’m not sure the Houthis are going to effect it much more negatively. And last time the Houthis were successful in their endeavors and will probably be again.
That’s true, fair enough, but if Trump chooses to go down that route the Houthis will just become another scapegoat option for corporate greed, and he was never lacking for those anyway. And again, why should they care about any of this? Even if what you’re saying is true, that only works in their favor.
