• Cryophilia@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        You think that, under Biden, literally every single Palestinian will die?

        Because that’s what Trump has said he wants.

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          First, Trump isn’t any more or less capable of doing that than Biden. Both of them have the same toolset to work with.

          Second, yes, if you starve the open air concentration camp you can in fact kill everyone there in a few months.

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            5 months ago

            First, Trump isn’t any more or less capable of doing that than Biden. Both of them have the same toolset to work with.

            Yeah but one will and one won’t. Who cares about capacity, we’re talking about (well documented, I should add) intentions.

            Second, yes, if you starve the open air concentration camp you can in fact kill everyone there in a few months.

            Trump would definitely do it faster and more thoroughly.

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              How would he do it faster? The last time he tried to get the military to commit crimes they straight up told him no and reminded the entire force their oaths are to the Constitution, not Trump. He can certainly deploy them, but he cannot force them to participate in crimes once there. The very first Corp level Civil Affairs officer that touches the ground will ensure Aid is processed into Gaza as fast as possible, no matter what the Israelis or Trump think about it.

              So Trump would need an entirely new force which doesn’t happen overnight, and oh yeah we’ve got to somehow get Biden to reverse course on this and lose while doing the right thing in a race against a convicted felon. Because as it stands Trump won’t need to do anything. This isn’t something on the timeline of years. That’s what happens when the world manages to get aid into the affected region and we play whack a mole with starving people. (And there’s still a ton of people dying.) In the scenario where aid is effectively stopped we don’t have that effect and the death rate is going to be far higher.

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                5 months ago

                I think we’re down low enough that no one is at risk of being suckered in by your brain rot, so I’m just gonna quit with the charade that you’re a reasonable person making arguments in good faith.

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      5 months ago

      On top of this, you have the bigger picture. What will happen if Trump wins?

      • It will get harder to go to college, as Trump works to gut Pell Grants and cap Stafford Loans.
      • If you have gone to college, it will get harder as Trump will increase the monthly amount you have to pay and not reward you for going into lower-paying public service jobs.
      • Gay marriage will be put on the chopping block.
      • Laws stopping discrimination against Gays and Minorities will be repealed and/or not enforced.

      This is just the most benign parts of Project 2025. It gets worse from there.

      So, on top of more people dying, we’ll suffer here at home because of idiots like Maggoty here.

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        5 months ago

        Sure, but I don’t even want to get into all that. They’ll just pivot back to the stupid “genocide Joe” bullshit. I want to pin em down on that, because even THAT makes no goddamn sense.