• jaschen@lemm.ee
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    There is no “Fair” when you become a parent.

    Parents who hate parenting misses their old selfish lives. Being a (good) parent means you no longer can be selfish and your life is no longer about you.

    That might seem grim, but what you get in return is a little human that looks up at you. That holds your hands because you are their world to them.

    Let go of your selfish lives and learn to enjoy your new selfless life.

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      Or I can go visit my sister and play with my niblings but not have to deal with any of the downsides of having children.

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        As a parent and a former uncle, I can tell you that it’s not comparable in the slightest. One is just having fun with a kid, while the other fills you with a sense of purpose unlike anything else.

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          Every single one of you sound like you’ve bought into a cult. I don’t need to spit out some kid to feel purposeful and content, just appreciate that I’m visiting to give you a break from parenting and let it go.

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            I’ve heard it said before that having your own and seeing someone elses’ children is not the same, the whole “you cannot understand until you have your own yada yada”.
            As a parent myself, I would never recommend anyone to have kids who really don’t want it. It’s okay to never want to see a child again, if that is was you want. I love being a parent but that is my experience and my life.

            If you are fine as it is now, then there is not need to change it. What should matter to you is that you are happy, not someone else.

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            Real talk. We appreciate you helping watching and playing with our kids. It’s enrichment for our kids and they are growing to enjoy the company. But this is NOT the purposeful and content part of parenting.

            My son was being bullied at school and didn’t know how to speak out for himself or even tell the teacher it was happening. My wife and I have been helping him vocalize and visualize how to express his discontent in a healthy way and also have the ability to report it to the teacher.

            After months of this last week my son reported it to the teacher for the first time this year. I was so proud of him for speaking up to his bully and telling a teacher.

            This is just a small thing that fills me with purpose and content. Everything we do together and watching him become a better person than me is what keeps me going.

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      Yeah, you can be a good parent and still miss your old life. Also, your previous life wasn’t necessarily “selfish” - what kind of bleak, one-dimensional outlook is this?

      You can love your kid, love to spend time with them, and still want to go to that one event, concert, knitting group, cookout, rave party, bike ride, marathon, whatever. Often, you can integrate your kid once they’re old enough, and at other times you’ll have to sacrifice your plans, maybe not getting together with an old friend you haven’t seen in a while. If that makes you feel a little sad and disappointed, that’s called being a human being with nuanced emotions, not being selfish.

      Being a good parent is about loving your kid, trying to integrate them, spending quality time with them, all while staying healthy, emotionally balanced and hopefully teaching your kid how to achieve just that.

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        I never said it’s not ok to be selfish. It’s perfectly ok to care about yourself. Because that’s is the only mouth you have to feed. Once it becomes 2, you have to let go of that feeling of a fair life. It’s not fair.

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        Terrible parents do terrible things. If you ever become a parent, you now know what not to do.

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          Last I checked, my taxes pay for your kids’ school, so…

          I love kids, wish I’d had my own, but it is not “selfless.” That’s just you justifying what you wanted

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            See it as you paying taxes for your school. School needs to exist for a functioning society. Private school leads to wealth gap and badness for everyone. If you wanna live in a nice place, you have to pay taxes.

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            My taxes pay for your fire department and police services and road you drive on. I never had a house fire once.

            You live if a society. Our collective taxes go to these services for a better today and a better tomorrow.

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            my taxes pay for your kids’ school

            The kid who one day might be your doctor, or care taker at an elder people’s home, or responsible for a lot of civil infrastructure; are you that certain their education doesn’t benefit you? Not you mention, you yourself had your education paid by other people’s taxes, if you were ever in the public school system, so consider this your way to pay back for that.

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        The smugness of parents who say people who choose differently are selfish is a great example of how parenthood can make someone a worse person.

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      It’s not guaranteed you’ll enjoy it or be good at it. That would be a huge gamble to take with my own life, but if there’s a kid involved I’m gambling with their life, too. I could never do something like that in good conscience.

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      That might seem grim, but what you get in return is a little human that looks up at you. That holds your hands because you are their world to them.

      Is decades of debt worth it? Hard pass.

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        Honestly, money is money. It’s just a number in your account. You can’t put a price tag on your own kids.

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      Haha yes if you get a nice grateful one in the genetic lottery. Supposedly.