I don’t think what we are seeing is the downfall of western societies but another mutation of capitalism, the wave of neoliberal policies gaining traction around the world as not seen since its first application in the 70s and being pushed down our throats
Trust me, the whole world is falling apart. Eastern side of the world will fall quickly if the West falls because we’re all connected.
Pretty sure I wouldn’t find it funny even from the outside. I guess I like the vast progress made on every metric since 1900.
You wouldn’t cuz you’d be in the third world
eh, there’s a real trend here, but it’s not an apocalypse
and it’s not all of so-called “western society”. It’s mostly just decline in the US. Think of it like Britain.
Not long ago, they were at the top of the pile. Richest nation in the world, so much land the sun literally never set. But empire is an organism. It grows, it thrives for a bit, it declines. And it’s not like Britain just disappeared from the globe. They still exist. They’re just also significantly less important.
Don’t worry, you won’t have time to worry about the fall of civilization when you’re dying from previously preventable diseases
Don’t worry, I’ll get to go even sooner than that. I have pre-existing conditions, once my insurance is stripped from me, I’m living on a timer.
Your sacrifice for UHC ceo’s 4th mega yacht will not be forgotten 🙏
The worst part about it, other than me suffering and dying, which is a bit of a downer, is that it’s not even “CEO gets a new mega-yacht for marginal improvements in social efficiency”. Like, me dying isn’t dying for an on-average-superior system, it’s me dying for a system that exists, at this point, just to make healthcare efficiency worse.
If it was “Emperor of Healthcare buys a 224th megayacht because the new triage system he ordered implemented saves 0.1% more people, but you, PugJesus, specifically, are going to die under this new system even though the 224th megayacht could pay for your lifetime treatment”, I’d be pissed and terrified, but at least there’s a POINT to it. But no, it’s “We’ve found a way to cheat 67% more people out of getting healthcare! Here’s a reward, Mr. CEO, for making society worse!”
RIP
“Western Society?”
Says Australia, Canada, and the UK, with their leftwing governments.
The US falling will be like Rome falling. America going down will be a whirlpool of Biblical proportions, dragging everyone down with us.
Reading your other responses, it’s like no one has a sense of history or world economies.
And what will the West do when it’s Russia and the US? Europe is falling flat on their face in the Ukraine, a threat right on their doorstep. LOL, they can’t make enough artillery shells to keep up with a 3rd world army using WWII gear.
Russia wants rare earths in the two regions it’s declared, and has hinted at wanting to invade Moldova (Odesa being a longterm interest for Russia)… It also wants Sebastopol obviously for the naval port that doesn’t freeze over. But there’s Zero chance they could go up against Europe collectively, not without China at least, and they’re not as into the idea.
But I think you’re being hyperbolic if you think the US will collapse in such a short time fram (Rome took at least a century), or that WW3 is going to arrive in Europe anytime soon. We’re still multiple highly unlikely geopolitical maneuvers away from that.
It’s consolidation. At worst it’s preparation for China’s 2030 push (and that’s not a sure thing either, have to see what happens in the US in 2028 before we get to finding more out about that).
Yea this is a US problem not a western society problem.
The UK is more “left of the right” than left at the moment. Though, there is hope the greens might wake up and gently pull them a little more left.
Remember, the band of fuckweasles that is reform are polling close to labour.
I wouldn’t get too complacent about the fact that the UK finally moved ever-so-slightly to the left. The press is just waiting to tear Starmer limb-from-limb. You saw that with how they amplified all the BS stuff about his CPS days. One good scandal could topple Labour and open the door to reform. Not delivering any material improvements for people who are struggling could have the same effect
It’s amazing how far right Labour has drifted.
Yes! USA is not “Western Society”.
Yes, the damage the US will cause with its collapse will suck, but Western Society as a whole is doing pretty well.
Aside from the commonwealth countries, Northern Europe is doing great. Germany is having some issues with AfD, but overall things are steady there. France has its usual issues, but they’ve soundly rejected the extreme right. Ireland is doing amazingly well. Benelux is just fine. Poland made a sudden turn towards openness and EU integration in their last election. Sure, Italy’s leader is right wing, but she’s hardly been wrecking things the way Trump has.
But, it’s no shock that an American thinks that American troubles means the collapse of democracy and civilization.
Canada has maple trump on the ballot and leading in the polls.
The US is heavily interfering in our political scape to push conservative votes
Little PP is bad, and maybe wants to be Trump, but he’s so clearly not Trump.
And, his pro-MAGA position has now put him on the wrong side now that Trump decided to attack Canada.
It’s still likely he’ll win, but I think the last couple of weeks have really damaged his campaign.
Please preserve democracy. Preserve civilization. Maybe someday, we here in the US will be able to cast off the fascist regime, limp back into the international order, hat in our hands, and ask the nations which preserved themselves to re-educate us in basic humanity.
