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inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 3 months ago

Muslim Groups Who Pushed Against Kamala Harris Respond to Trump's Gaza Plan - Newsweek

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inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to politics @lemmy.world · 3 months ago
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Muslim groups who pushed against Kamala Harris respond to Trump's Gaza plan
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"It is not Trump—just as it was not Biden or Harris—who decides what the Palestinians can or cannot do," Abandon Harris' Hudhayfah Ahmad told Newsweek.
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    The options appears to have been

    Get bombed but afterwards the survivors get to stay in their homeland.

    Or

    Get bombed and afterwards the survivors are ethnically cleansed and their homeland becomes a US/Israel resort.

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      So slow genocide with open air prison vs quicker genocide?

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        Surviving until another more friendly politician comes around is certainly a much better option.

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          The best way to ensure a politician who supports a cause comes along is to support politicians unconditionally whether they support it or not.

          And the people who think that genuinely think it’s the rest of us who are stupid lmao

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            It’s like you’re addicted to misrepresenting people’s argument

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              My apologies, I must have misunderstood.

              In that case, the best way to ensure a politician who supports a certain cause comes along is to conditionally support politicians only when they support said cause.

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        Do you want the genocide that will take a century, or the genocide that will take a few weeks to months.

        The lefts goal is to stop the genocide, in either scenario, but it seems like a much harder thing to do under the latter option.

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            The lefts goal is to stop the genocide, in either scenario, but it seems like a much harder thing to do under the latter option.

            An important part of my response that you seem to have missed.

            Essentially, stopping the genocide is multi-stage process, but that’s (apparently) a very complicated thing for you to understand, so instead you just gave up and accepted defeat.

            And not just accepted defeat, but used that defeat to feel morally superior to those that didn’t stop fighting, that recognized that Palestinian liberation would require more than just voting in the presidential election. That voting was the just the bare minimum requirement of the task at hand.

            People like you are idiots and will always share some of the responsibility for what this white-christo facist regime inflicts on the world.

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                We overwhelmingly did not support the sending of weapons to Israel and they were sent there anyways, so your strategy was ineffective and was demonstrated to you as ineffective for over a year.

                Do you understand?

                Source:

                Recent polls indicate significant opposition among Democrats to President Biden’s decision to send weapons to Israel. A March 2024 YouGov poll found that 62% of Biden voters supported halting arms shipments to Israel during its military offensive in Gaza, with only 14% opposing[2][5]. Additionally, a Gallup poll from the same period showed just 18% of Democrats approving of Israeli actions in Gaza, reflecting broader discontent with Biden’s stance[7].

                Citations: [1] Nearly half of Democrats disapprove of Biden’s response to … - PBS https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/nearly-half-of-democrats-disapprove-of-bidens-response-to-the-israel-hamas-war-poll-shows [2] Majority of Biden voters oppose weapons shipments to Israel, poll says https://www.politico.com/news/2024/03/05/israel-gaza-poll-voters-biden-00144976 [3] Poll: Dems divided over Biden’s handling of Israel-Hamas war https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/politics/2024/05/16/president-biden-s-approval-rating-dips-over-response-to-israel-gaza-war [4] The Democrats who flipped on Israel aid, and why https://responsiblestatecraft.org/democrats-voted-for-israel-aid/ [5] Poll: Majority of Americans Say Biden Should Halt Weapons … - CEPR https://cepr.net/newsroom/poll-majority-of-americans-say-biden-should-halt-weapons-shipments-to-israel/ [6] The data that explains Biden’s new Israel red line https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2024/05/10/data-that-explains-bidens-new-israel-red-line/ [7] Majority in U.S. Now Disapprove of Israeli Action in Gaza - Gallup poll https://news.gallup.com/poll/642695/majority-disapprove-israeli-action-gaza.aspx [8] Poll: Most Democrats prefer presidential candidate who won’t back … https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-most-democrats-prefer-presidential-candidate-who-wont-back-israel-military-aid/ [9] Most Americans disapprove of Biden’s handling of Israel-Hamas war https://www.cbsnews.com/news/most-americans-disapprove-biden-handling-israel-hamas-war-poll-2023-12-10/

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                1. Anonymous source

                2. Vaguely said ‘similar’ with 0 details

                Your ipad addled brain is filling in the details with whatever imaginary facts produce the most cortisol for you.

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        Slower means more people are alive. More time for change.

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