I’m listing this under “suicide by ethnic minority
That’s complete bullshit, first there is no equivalent to the N word for Muslims, second the N word is a racial thing you can’t change. being a Muslim is a superstition you should get rid of.
You are making false equivalences, and use it to apologize for murder because of religious fanaticism.
Even if the equivalence was accurate, it’s not an excuse for killing people. I’m shocked such a moronic post has upvotes!?!?!
That’s complete bullshit, first there is no equivalent to the N word for Muslims,
There’s no equivalent for the N word for Muslims, yeah, but there are ways to offend Muslims as a whole to a similar level, and staging public Quran burnings in front of a mosque to actively provoke Muslims is one of those. Trying to get the Quran banned in Sweden also didn’t do him any favors.
Even if the equivalence was accurate, it’s not an excuse for killing people.
It’s not about being an excuse or not; I’m not trying to excuse the murder here. However, if for example I, an Egyptian Muslim, staged multiple public Bible burning in a major church in a Christian neighborhood in Cairo and kept actively provoking Christians I wouldn’t expect to get away with it; I’d be basically screaming “yes baby lynch me”. That’s what I’m talking about here. This is an act meant to, and bound to, really piss people off and there were always going to be people radical enough to think “I should do something about this”, and out of those there were always going to be people who actually did something about it. This murder was a statistical certainty; this is the same principle behind stochastic terrorism.
Wow you are really choosing to double down on this?
Amazing!!
if for example I, an Egyptian Muslim, staged multiple public Bible burning in a major church in a Christian neighborhood in Cairo and kept actively provoking Christians I wouldn’t expect to get away with it;
False equivalence, Egypt and Sweden is not the same culture. In EU we have a thing called freedom of speech. And death penalty is illegal in EU.
Here Egypt is considered extremely backwards. And I can guarantee that if you burn Bibles in Sweden, Christians won’t kill you for it.
False equivalence, Egypt and Sweden is not the same culture. In EU we have a thing called freedom of speech. And death penalty is illegal in EU.
I never said anything about the law here. You only need one person to not care about these things to get something like the OP.
And I can guarantee that if you burn Bibles in Sweden, Christians won’t kill you for it.
Uh… You sure? It seems you only need to not be white to run into racism and be at risk of being victim to a hate crime. With that in mind it seems that I, a very much not white Egyptian went to Sweden did anything as provocative as burning the Bible and advocating for its banning it seems I’d have real reason to fear for my safety. Because again, y’all apparently have people who will target ethnic and religious minorities for simply existing.
It’s an expression of wildly different mindsets of the 2 countries.
Uh… You sure?
Yes I’m sure, as sure as you can be about anything in general. Of course racism exist, but it’s not something people are killed over. While for many Muslims it’s perfectly legitimate to kill people for no other reason than disagreeing with the Quran, you don’t find a similar attitude among Christians atheists or Jews. Islam is the worst religion regarding fostering extremism and fanatics.
Which your original response to my post, was merely one example of.
Of course racism exist, but it’s not something people are killed over.
Uh… I don’tthink so. I found these by looking up “racially motivated homicide Sweden”, and I imagine you’ll get many more results if you search in Swedish. And these are people who simply… existed. If an immigrant did anything as inflammatory as publicly burning the Bible and calling for its ban they’d be eaten alive by the far right. I don’t know what liberal utopia where everyone tolerates free speech you’re talking about here is, but Sweden ain’t it. Not with these guys as the second largest party in your parliament. Also if you’re still not satisfied with the Bible comparison, you can make it the Swedish flag or whatever else you like. If you think far right media wouldn’t latch onto that like flies then I don’t know what to say.
While for many Muslims it’s perfectly legitimate to kill people for no other reason than disagreeing with the Quran, you don’t find a similar attitude among Christians atheists or Jews.
You’re repeatedly missing the point, and at this point I’m starting to think it’s intentional. The message of “fuck your beliefs and fuck you”, delivered from the target group’s backyard (in front of the Stockholm mosque in this case) is a lot more provocative and inflammatory than just “disagreeing with the Quran”.
you don’t find similar attitude among Christians atheists or Jews
This is just a load of bullshit. Christian hate groups definitely exist and if I burned a Bible in rural Alabama, Missisippi, latin America, Russia, and eastern eruope a mob would finish me. The country with the largest irreligious population is the home of the CCP. The government actively putting Muslims in “reeducation camps”. Let’s ask a Palestinian about Jewish attitudes about burning a Torah?
And try not fall of your high horse as Sweden slides into far right politics like the rest of Europe. You literally have neo nazi terrorists running around Sweden NOW and your talking point of the Quran being so evil sound very similar to theirs
Again you are making a false equivalence.
Russia is not a democracy, and USA has death penalty and also another mindset than EU.
When I wrote Christians wouldn’t do that, it was clearly Christians in SWEDEN. And I bet the same would be the case throughout EU.
To quote myself:
And I can guarantee that if you burn Bibles in SWEDEN, Christians won’t kill you for it.
But of course if you burn a Quran anywhere in the world, fanatic Muslims all over the world will make an issue of it.
The country with the largest irreligious population is the home of the CCP.
https://www.acronymfinder.com/CCP.html
If you mean China has an atheist government, why don’t you just write that? CCP is an acronym with 314 meanings registered on that page.
The reason China does this has nothing to do with being atheist, but everything to do with having a totalitarian government, governed by an ideology that is also capable of feeding fanaticism. But you should take note that these extreme measures are against Muslims ONLY. Why do you think that is?
Islam feeds fanaticism in the world more than any other religion, because Islam has not evolved according to modern moral standards like mainstream Christianity has. Islam claims to be pro science (new knowledge), but in fact it’s probably the most anti science and knowledge religion there is.
That’s complete bullshit, first there is no equivalent to the N word for Muslims, second the N word is a racial thing you can’t change. being a Muslim is a superstition you should get rid of.
You are making false equivalences, and use it to apologize for murder because of religious fanaticism.
Even if the equivalence was accurate, it’s not an excuse for killing people. I’m shocked such a moronic post has upvotes!?!?!
There’s no equivalent for the N word for Muslims, yeah, but there are ways to offend Muslims as a whole to a similar level, and staging public Quran burnings in front of a mosque to actively provoke Muslims is one of those. Trying to get the Quran banned in Sweden also didn’t do him any favors.
It’s not about being an excuse or not; I’m not trying to excuse the murder here. However, if for example I, an Egyptian Muslim, staged multiple public Bible burning in a major church in a Christian neighborhood in Cairo and kept actively provoking Christians I wouldn’t expect to get away with it; I’d be basically screaming “yes baby lynch me”. That’s what I’m talking about here. This is an act meant to, and bound to, really piss people off and there were always going to be people radical enough to think “I should do something about this”, and out of those there were always going to be people who actually did something about it. This murder was a statistical certainty; this is the same principle behind stochastic terrorism.
Wow you are really choosing to double down on this?
Amazing!!
False equivalence, Egypt and Sweden is not the same culture. In EU we have a thing called freedom of speech. And death penalty is illegal in EU.
Here Egypt is considered extremely backwards. And I can guarantee that if you burn Bibles in Sweden, Christians won’t kill you for it.
I never said anything about the law here. You only need one person to not care about these things to get something like the OP.
Uh… You sure? It seems you only need to not be white to run into racism and be at risk of being victim to a hate crime. With that in mind it seems that I, a very much not white Egyptian went to Sweden did anything as provocative as burning the Bible and advocating for its banning it seems I’d have real reason to fear for my safety. Because again, y’all apparently have people who will target ethnic and religious minorities for simply existing.
It’s an expression of wildly different mindsets of the 2 countries.
Yes I’m sure, as sure as you can be about anything in general. Of course racism exist, but it’s not something people are killed over. While for many Muslims it’s perfectly legitimate to kill people for no other reason than disagreeing with the Quran, you don’t find a similar attitude among Christians atheists or Jews. Islam is the worst religion regarding fostering extremism and fanatics.
Which your original response to my post, was merely one example of.
Uh… I don’t think so. I found these by looking up “racially motivated homicide Sweden”, and I imagine you’ll get many more results if you search in Swedish. And these are people who simply… existed. If an immigrant did anything as inflammatory as publicly burning the Bible and calling for its ban they’d be eaten alive by the far right. I don’t know what liberal utopia where everyone tolerates free speech you’re talking about here is, but Sweden ain’t it. Not with these guys as the second largest party in your parliament. Also if you’re still not satisfied with the Bible comparison, you can make it the Swedish flag or whatever else you like. If you think far right media wouldn’t latch onto that like flies then I don’t know what to say.
You’re repeatedly missing the point, and at this point I’m starting to think it’s intentional. The message of “fuck your beliefs and fuck you”, delivered from the target group’s backyard (in front of the Stockholm mosque in this case) is a lot more provocative and inflammatory than just “disagreeing with the Quran”.
This is just a load of bullshit. Christian hate groups definitely exist and if I burned a Bible in rural Alabama, Missisippi, latin America, Russia, and eastern eruope a mob would finish me. The country with the largest irreligious population is the home of the CCP. The government actively putting Muslims in “reeducation camps”. Let’s ask a Palestinian about Jewish attitudes about burning a Torah?
And try not fall of your high horse as Sweden slides into far right politics like the rest of Europe. You literally have neo nazi terrorists running around Sweden NOW and your talking point of the Quran being so evil sound very similar to theirs
Again you are making a false equivalence.
Russia is not a democracy, and USA has death penalty and also another mindset than EU.
When I wrote Christians wouldn’t do that, it was clearly Christians in SWEDEN. And I bet the same would be the case throughout EU.
To quote myself:
But of course if you burn a Quran anywhere in the world, fanatic Muslims all over the world will make an issue of it.
https://www.acronymfinder.com/CCP.html
If you mean China has an atheist government, why don’t you just write that? CCP is an acronym with 314 meanings registered on that page.
The reason China does this has nothing to do with being atheist, but everything to do with having a totalitarian government, governed by an ideology that is also capable of feeding fanaticism. But you should take note that these extreme measures are against Muslims ONLY. Why do you think that is?
Islam feeds fanaticism in the world more than any other religion, because Islam has not evolved according to modern moral standards like mainstream Christianity has. Islam claims to be pro science (new knowledge), but in fact it’s probably the most anti science and knowledge religion there is.