• kreskin@lemmy.world
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    let me stop you right there. I don’t care.

    right back at you pal. Go ahead and throw your temper tantrum, but know that come 2028 without a united party neither progressives or centrists (you) can win an election without the other. The dem brand in general has never been weaker because of logic like yours that enabled a genocide and hubris about voters needs that too many voters wouldnt stand for… So buck the eff up, or take your own advice and:

    shut up.

    either way, start acting like you’re in a coalition, because thats reality whether you like it or not.

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      right back at you pal. Go ahead and throw your temper tantrum, but know that come 2028

      won’t happen. you guys seriously don’t fucking get it do you? I can’t even imagine being so shortsighted that I can’t even see what the fuck is happening in the next six weeks.

      either way, start acting like you’re in a coalition, because thats reality whether you like it or not.

      I’ve always, ALWAYS, held firm that the US should be a protector of the disenfranchised or unprotected. after this election I realized I was wrong.

      We don’t have to do anything of the sort. My charity is empty. My sympathy is gone. At this point, I’m focused 100% on fixing America and American interests.

      If people in some far off land have to die so that we can give LGBTQA+ people a place to feel safe so be it.

      If non-Americans have to die to protect the interests that empower America so that my kids can grow up in prosperity I will vote to kill them every single time now.

      Make no mistake, it’s not out of a sense of national pride. it’s not from a source of hatred or prejudice. I will protect my national interests because I have been given no other choice but to impose American authority because American ideals are being eroded and attacked by those who beg for help.

      you’re drowning in a sea of hatred, and I refuse to let you take me with you.

      I don’t hate you, I just don’t care about you unless you’re American or support American interests.

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        If people in some far off land have to die so that we can give LGBTQA+ people a place to feel safe so be it.

        Thanks for this wonderful summary of exactly what was wrong with many democrat supporters in this election campaign.

        They don’t have to die do they? That is the whole fucking point. How many LGBT+ people do you think would agree with this? “Yeah lots of kids died but it’s worth it as long as I am protected.”

        If you don’t care about Gaza it’s fine. That’s your business. But let’s not pretend it’s some trade for the benefit of a group of people you cannot possibly speak for.

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          If you don’t care about Gaza it’s fine. That’s your business. But let’s not pretend it’s some trade for the benefit of a group of people you cannot possibly speak for.

          Particularly days after Biden signed anti-trans legislation.

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          they don’t have to die. but that’s not my problem anymore.

          my problem now is a fascist dictatorship taking over my country because your movement couldn’t see more than one step ahead.

          so here we sit. me with my problem that wasn’t a problem until you guys made it one, and you with your problem which I’m making not my problem anymore.

          good luck doing jack shit about it without help now!

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            Anyone who defended Biden and Harris on this never made it their problem in the first place. They didn’t care.

            my problem now is a fascist dictatorship taking over my country because your movement couldn’t see more than one step ahead.

            Not my movement. I still advocated voting for Harris.

            And it’s actually because “your” movement thought you could convince enough people to hold their nose and vote for someone they didn’t like but you were wrong.

            It’s great for you that you don’t care about the genocide going on. I bet that’s nice. It’s not so great for you that your complete and utter inability to understand your countrymen led you into this disaster. Maybe listen to well intentioned critics next time?

            I know it wasn’t you personally but you see what I mean.

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        This is literal Nazi speech.

        I think the problem is that we teach that Nazi’s are bad, but don’t teach about their ideological positions.

        Then we get people like you that hit the wall of cognitive dissonance when you hear your views are literally fascist. But fascists are bad. And you’re good, right?

        And then we have the mental breakdowns and tantrums that you’re giving us. That’s the cognitive dissonance.

        Same with that comment you made daring people post links proving that people suffered major consequences for their protesting and you preemptively edited it to say that they couldn’t.

        Then they do, because it was a frequent and common occurrence and you don’t respond because you can’t admit, even to yourself, that they were right while there evidence is staring you in the face.

        EDIT: fucking Nazi.

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            You did say:

            “If non-Americans have to die to protect the interests that empower America so that my kids can grow up in prosperity I will vote to kill them every single time now.”

            To which I respond “Well, if the jack-boot fits…”

            If you don’t want to be called a Nazi, you need to stop making fascist statements and this quote is LITERALLY fascist.

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            I didn’t call you one.

            I’m identifying you as one when you are explicitly saying you are one based upon your comments.

            If you don’t want people to correctly identify you as a Nazi, you need to learn what the Nazis believed and not believe those things.

            In other words, you need to stop being a Nazi.

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        If people in some far off land have to die so that we can give LGBTQA+ people a place to feel safe so be it.

        If non-Americans have to die to protect the interests that empower America so that my kids can grow up in prosperity I will vote to kill them every single time now.

        Least chauvinist ‘centrist’ democrat. In another era you would be seig heiling.