I’m not even the guy you originally responded to and I have no stake in this, I am simply telling you that your statements make you sound stupid.
Marxism is a socialist~communist socioeconomic/political philsosophy, and being a Marxist means you follow the ideals of said ideology, making you a socialist and/or communist (depending on the usage of the word). It does not simply (have to) mean you think “yeah the things Marx says about class are accurate”, it means you advocate for the solutions he describes for the industrialist plague.
Calling someone a “capitalist Marxist” is fucking gold lol, I mean depending on context/connotation of the word it isn’t always technically impossible (if that’s what you want to call class-conscious capitalists), but in this case it certainly is impossible since he’s clearly meaning it in the sense of someone who believes in implementing Marx’s socialism, not just someone who believes that what Marx says about politics/economy/power is accurate.
and being a Marxist means you follow the ideals of said ideology
Oh boy… another edgy liberal that clings to Marx because “western culture” couldn’t provide you with an identity that wasn’t bought at a strip-mall.
This shouldn’t be so difficult to understand, but I guess everything has to be difficult when dealing with white liberals who can’t tell the difference between identity and ideology.
Do tell, genius… do you really think economists take Marx seriously because of his ideology? Don’t be silly - they take him seriously because his critique of capitalism is an economic one that is completely separable from Marx’s ideological stance. Marx was a scientist first and foremost. Understanding Marx’s critique of capitalism requires no ideological frame in any way whatsoever.
You might just as well tell me that you need to be a Bakuninist to understand, or admit to, climate change - and you’d be equally as silly.
it isn’t always technically impossible
I’m really sorry that Marx didn’t actually provide you with the neatly-packaged counter-cultural identity that you assumed he would - but that’s not something we can blame Marx for. That’s all on you.
It’s time to realize that that Che Guevara t-shirt you own is just that - a t-shirt.
“Hurr durr, it’s unacceptable to us white liberals when everybody but the US does it."
Are you still here, white supremacist? Have you been priced out of the copium market, perhaps?
When you call a marxist a liberal, we know your brain is soup.
So you don’t understand what the term “Marxist” actually means?
Color me surprised… do you need me to explain it to you, liberal? Fine - I will.
Marxist simply means that you understand capitalism through a Marxist lens - that’s it. Nothing more, nothing less.
You can be a Marxist and be a socialist.
You can be a Marxist and be a fascist.
You can be a Marxist and be the most exploitative and parasitic capitalist around.
Hell, you can be a Marxist while also being the most money-grubbing banker in the west - Marxism will even help you achieve that.
Are you getting this, liberal? Or is it still flying over your head?
You are stupid
You getting your feels hurt does not imply any failure on my part, okay?
I’m not even the guy you originally responded to and I have no stake in this, I am simply telling you that your statements make you sound stupid.
Marxism is a socialist~communist socioeconomic/political philsosophy, and being a Marxist means you follow the ideals of said ideology, making you a socialist and/or communist (depending on the usage of the word). It does not simply (have to) mean you think “yeah the things Marx says about class are accurate”, it means you advocate for the solutions he describes for the industrialist plague.
Calling someone a “capitalist Marxist” is fucking gold lol, I mean depending on context/connotation of the word it isn’t always technically impossible (if that’s what you want to call class-conscious capitalists), but in this case it certainly is impossible since he’s clearly meaning it in the sense of someone who believes in implementing Marx’s socialism, not just someone who believes that what Marx says about politics/economy/power is accurate.
Oh boy… another edgy liberal that clings to Marx because “western culture” couldn’t provide you with an identity that wasn’t bought at a strip-mall.
This shouldn’t be so difficult to understand, but I guess everything has to be difficult when dealing with white liberals who can’t tell the difference between identity and ideology.
Do tell, genius… do you really think economists take Marx seriously because of his ideology? Don’t be silly - they take him seriously because his critique of capitalism is an economic one that is completely separable from Marx’s ideological stance. Marx was a scientist first and foremost. Understanding Marx’s critique of capitalism requires no ideological frame in any way whatsoever.
You might just as well tell me that you need to be a Bakuninist to understand, or admit to, climate change - and you’d be equally as silly.
I’m really sorry that Marx didn’t actually provide you with the neatly-packaged counter-cultural identity that you assumed he would - but that’s not something we can blame Marx for. That’s all on you.
It’s time to realize that that Che Guevara t-shirt you own is just that - a t-shirt.
I generally don’t take antisemites seriously. Therefore Marx is a blowhard in my book.