If we can compress the entirety of human art, music, literature made by billions of people into the size of a 4-10 GB model, at around 1 person per byte, then we must have not been very creative in the first place.

What an awful, cynical way to look at reality.

The less you ask for, the more it can do.

Which is the entire ideology of the cult around AI.

Y’all want a world that gives you nothing you ask for while we are powerless to do anything about it.

You are wrong, or at least you are wrong to identify your beliefs as in the realm of rationality or science, what you are espousing are a set of religious beliefs in the power of AI that there is zero evidence AI will ever fulfill and damn if it isn’t a lame and depressingly cynical religion.

It is clear when dealing with folks from your cult that proving AI is shit and that it has fundamental problems and limitations is irrelevant to the world view of the cult as it just proves to whatever particular cultist you are talking to that whatever particular subbranch of the cult they are on is the True Sect unlike the other subbranches stuck on the old teachings that aren’t really magical… and that the REAL AGI is just around the corner and this is a distraction.

It is the same nonsense problem you get when you start proclaiming dates for the end of the world in your religion and they keep inconveniently passing by without the world ending. To maintain your delusion you must divide up the religion and say “oh it was that Sect over there that was wrong, we have the true knowledge!”. Rinse Repeat.

I am fine with you having different spiritual beliefs then me just don’t waste everyones’ time by trying to force people into thinking your religion is reality.

No one cares who isn’t already part of your cult.

Sora shut down because this tech has moved on to local models running near real-time.

No, Sora shut down because AI is a bullshit business model that doesn’t produce anything consistently of useful value other than the obsfucation of theft or responsibility and consumes a vast amount of resources to accomplish what a moderate amount of humans with food, water, shelter and love could make far more efficiently and with far more soul.

I regularly hear normal people describe shitty, fake things that come off hollow as “like AI”, you can see how much of a false future AI is in how little people like what it makes almost as a rule. The reason normal people hate AI is because it is so suffocatingly often a boring black box that spits out sloppy unoriginal crap chopped up from stolen human labor, something most normal people are used to identifying in the hollow structures of society around them.

Never let people in your country forget that there is nothing special about their nationalism and their particular flavor of rightwing xenophobia. It is all the same product just with a slightly different shitty label plastered on depending on where in the world you are.

Rightwing ideologies that traffic in dehumanizing groups of people are all violent, they ALL lead to the same place the US is rocketing towards.

I think one of the best ways to fight violent rightwing ideologies obsessed with exclusion, austerity and seeing everything through a zero sum framing no matter what, is to loudly point out to everybody around the periphery of these ideologies that they haven’t stumbled on a new idea, the words they are saying are the same broken record playing in the US and elsewhere.

Call toxic rightwing violent men who pride themselves in projecting whatever identity they identify as The Original or The Superior shitty cheap knockoffs of US rightwing culture. Other them from their own context by pointing out there isn’t any actually unique localized identity to their beliefs beyond a superficial crust. Even if this doesn’t get under their skin, that isn’t the point, the point is to undermine their call towards reducing your societies horizons by pointing out to everybody the horizons those people want are themselves foreign, imposed and twisted in specific ways that don’t take into account your local context at all.

Point to the US and emphasize that person is arguing for the same ideology that is tearing the US down into poverty, misery and war. Use people’s natural desire to shit on the US as stupid from outside the US to open the door to them seeing their local homegrown version is literally the same stupid shit just without the megaphone the US has.

A specific example, invite people into laughing at how stupid some aspect of the US with a joke or comment, then point out that the conservatives in your area look up to the rightwing people that made those choices here in the US and look them in the eyes with a smile.

The difference between a human artist working with digital media vs analog media is a difference in materials.

The difference between art and AI is AI is a lossy compression algorithm used to steal human art in a legally defensible way.

You can use anything to make art, AI techbros didnt prove that, my point is AI is a shitty self-defeating tool that hides the theft of our public commons of shared art made by humans behind a bunch of bullshit technobabble.

You know this is desperately grasping for straws here given the massive economic AI bubble we are in right?

Outline for me why that wouldn’t be a waste of time versus going straight to the tutorial videos and materials the AI stole the content from?

No, blame the ideology of people who cannot see any future other than the fantasy one they magically promise is possible that also in the meantime dehumanizes people.

Where in my comments have I said I don’t have to know anything about AI to hate it?

Where have I claimed maximally that no information exists beyond my beliefs?

You are Strawmanning me and it is blatant.

How am I coming off like a cultist?

You are deflecting from my points by appealing to a list of specific references to tooling when that doesn’t address my actual point.

These are all lossy data compression algorithms trained on sets of human curated data created by humans. Sure you can make some use of them, but they are massively inefficient from almost every angle versus humans creating tutorials, humans creating project templates and easy to understand user interfaces, humans making teaching materials for other humans, humans answering questions on forums, humans just doing HUMAN things…

ANYTHING you argue as a pro for AI is just a poorly extracted benefit from a curated set of human data that could have been better leveraged by humans helping humans create new things directly.

You can hate AI all you want, but you sound uneducated af.

You sound like you are in a cult.

Make the prompt original and it will be original.

Make the prompt original

Make

You don’t understand AI beyond your scifi slop fantasy of what it is rather then the reality that it is possibly one of the worst lossy data compression algorithms ever designed.

Without a constant influx of high quality human training data curated by humans AI is capable of nothing novel. It is a highly lossy data compression algorithm that is somehow so processing inefficient it has become an existential environmental problem because of the electricity use required to sustain this bullshit.

No, the difference is it is actually possible though unlikely for an original movie to come out of a big studio.

AI because of the fundamental design of it, will never ever make anything original.

I am not afraid of AI taking over movies, everything AI makes is suffocatingly derivative and boring.

I am not sure in the aftermath of this war the world economy will ever be as productive in totality again based upon the amount of damage that is being done and the amount of economic collapse this war was launched partially to distract from (yes I am talking about the US, but also Iran FUCKED its ground water supply).

Given climate change decreasing global productivity and the likely catastrophic damage to water desalination plants in the Middle East will set that region back a decade at least in macro economic development. Further shipping insurance rates are likely going to skyrocket no matter what so shipping will never be as cheap as it was.

I think we are seeing the nadir of global economic productivity, which isn’t all a bad thing but it is sobering.

Yeah but what makes me sad is that smaller independent studios cannot maintain an industry of artists alone and thus the gaming and movie world is going to exit the golden age we have been in.

There needs to be large, boring more “institutional” companies making large movie or game projects to provide the capacity for entry level jobs at scale, to provide more stable places for an artist to work while raising a family or to provide a stepping stone in employment between more meaningful jobs at smaller more focused companies.

I love Indie Games, I love smaller art projects of all kinds, but my point is the labor market is broken in these industries and it can lead to nowhere else than collapse of the industry.

This is a perfect example of the myth that capitalism is efficient, it can be seen here clearly that it leads directly to a periodic shattering of industries leaving only a couple of massive companies to buy up the entire landscape and consolidate control over the industry after the cataclysm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shock_Doctrine

Conservativism is a disease for any society.

Yes, it is essentially a contagion on societies and it is growing like crazy right now. We must understand this threat for what it is.

Too many people look at the US and think we are uniquely stupid when the difference is our conservatives are more empowered and worshipped than in other countries. It is a dangerous mistake to think there aren’t rightwing fascist ignorant assholes who want to turn your country into a place like the US no matter where you are, anywhere on earth.

True, I suppose it already has permanently decreased the quality of life of CGI artists because their labor will now always be judged as a more costly alternative to AI that doesn’t actually work but still serves as a good bargaining chip against employees in negotiations.

Toyota fucked themselves over by having super rightwing leadership who were willingly blind to the ways in which being super rightwing makes you a dumbass.

Definitely not dumbass techbros!

Emma Vigeland is a badass.