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  • Yes, there is all that. As I said, I think Netanyahu and his bunch belong in jail, not in power.

    But even if this guy is out of the way, here’s a few more questions to consider:

    • Do you agree that after Oct 7th, Israels strategy of building a wall and an “iron dome” must be considered totally failed?
    • Do you agree that the Hamas can not be talked with?
    • Do you agree that in addition to the Hamas, Israel is surrounded by militant groups that want to erase the state from the map?
    • Do you agree that in the past no palestinean negotiator honestly considered a 2-state-solution?

    What are, positively speaking, Israels options? What should a moderate follower of Netanyahu do to achieve some sort of piece? I’m lost here. Do you have any ideas other than saying “not this way”?



  • To the leftist who is stunned by this message:

    Think of Jordan Peterson. There was a time where he was riled up against “ideologies who would kill people in the name of a higher good.” And he named examples, Stalin and Mao most prominently. For all the abstract criticisms of ideologies, he rarely distances himself from Fascism, named Hitler only very occasionally as an example.

    Now he is forethinker for the Republican Fascist party which is now normalizing the exact dehumanizing language that the Nazis used to prepared and justify their concentration camps.

    Antifascists caught his thought patterns early on and warned of him using fascist arguments much more sensitive than most people, the missing distancing from Hitler along his other prominent examples being one of them.

    Now, dear leftists, the mirror of this arguments wants to ask you if you are really only motivated by reducing human suffering and wanting peace. And if so, you cannot ignore the role of Hamas in this longtime ongoing conflict nor in this war. If you skip that, if that’s not in your mirror, it’s big time necessary to go outside your bubble. Because then chances are you are a puppet playing the propaganda trumpet for the Hamas, or otherwise playing in their hands.

    Tedious as it may be, missing distance to a terrorist group like that in a conflict like that is a big red flag.

    And just as a tedious albeit necessary disclaimer, I believe Netanyahu and quite a bunch of other Israeli actors belong in a courtroom and then in jail for their atrocities, and certainly not in power.



  • If you checked out for mental reasons, do yourself a favor and keep checked out.

    If you want to know news events look at a couple diverse news sites. They’ll do a much better job of informing you than social media.

    But somehow this post has the vibes of purposefully starting this social media fight again. Too many things you know for someone checked out. Too naively suggesting “something to do with…” that’ll rile up people. I call bullshit. Go back to Reddit!


  • redballooon@lemm.eetoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldlemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Zionism became a thing when antisemitism was really bad.

    Israel became a thing when antisemitism went over itself and even casual antisemites looked in horror at what Nazis had done.

    The Palestinian problem today is nested within centuries of the problem of antisemitism, coiling around and biting itself in the tail.