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  • This is the problem with the term socialism. It’s very often applied to social democracy, so it’s not an exact term any more. For what you are discussing (seizing the means of production, central distribution of resources and jobs), I prefer the term communism.

    But none of that matters much. What matters is that the Scandinavian model of social democracy has been far more successful where applied than communism ever was. Communism has only ever been fully implemented on the back of brutal authoritarianism, and that’s because it’s in fundamental conflict with human nature.

    And as much as I would love for human nature and social dynamics of large groups to be different, we have to deal with the animal we have rather than the one we want.


  • In that case why do we have so many good examples of regulation in capitalist systems, the most effective being the “Scandinavian model” countries which effectively blended large amounts of socialism into a capitalist system and enjoy the best health and happiness rates in the world?

    Indeed there is no such thing as an unregulated capitalist economy anywhere in the world. They all have staggering amounts of regulation.


  • I agree on your points as well. We are so limited by human nature and lack of consensus that I don’t think we can escape these problems without something extreme like genetically modifying the whole population of the world.

    It’s been very nice discussing politics with you. Such civil political conversations are rare and noteworthy.