So directly, absolutely not.

Indirectly, probably.

Do you think that prison labor and undocumented workers are a significant portion of the labor used to produce EVs in the USA?

it’s not the manufacturer that bears the cost of tarriffs, it’s the customers.

And the locals that lose their means of providing for themselves.

The counterpoints are about local US employment and thinking comparative advantage is bullshit.

Time to start pushing for EV subsidies from Congress for real.

Elon was already aware of the global landscape and chose Trump as the conduit for government support of the EV market.

I’m saying that scenario has a low probability

Wikipedia has a great image of orientations on the dates of Saturn’s opposition from 2001 thru 2029 (copied below). It really shows what’s going on and the approximate timing of visibility of the rings as they change from a Northern to Southern view from Earth’s perspective. Between March and November of 2025 the rings will be in the least visible orientations.

Rivian will probably be bought out by a larger company if they fail to scale, so that going zero possibility seems low.

Tesla did change the world for the better. Elon took the financial rewards and is using them to offset all of the improvements with catalyzing social issues into worse social issues.

Once Mexico has manufacturing plants building Chinese badged vehicles, I think the dominoes will start to fall. Right now , it seems that Mexico is just importing cars assembled in China.

Something like not registering the car in Texas so it technically isn’t imported. This is similar to all the people in the northeast with cars registered in Florida to avoid higher insurance premiums, but they’re playing games with federal laws instead of state laws.

That sounds like the status quo, not a revolution.

That’s an interesting observation, it’d be interesting to see what could be the reason why that pattern might hold in a proper survey. But it could just be chance that it was that way at that particular facility.

That’s certainly relevant context for wanting more range, but even with 80% degradation of a battery originally rated for a 240 mile range, you wouldn’t need to spend much time charging at the intermediate destination before returning home to make the round trip with plenty of range to spare in each direction.

But I get it, people who regularly drive longer distances will want more range, that makes sense. My original pount is that many people don’t and they could be paying a lot more for what they’re not actually using. This is especially true for families with multiple vehicles.

I’m hearing from a lot of owners that range isn’t as big a deal they initially thought it was. Many say that they never drove 200 miles on a charge during their ownership of rhe EV. I’m sure that’s very context dependent, but it got me thinking about why I’d need 300 miles on a charge and I’m not sure if I have a good answer.

How much after import taxes to the US?

Can it be imported at all?

It would be even more efficient and probably safer on rails, but I’m not going to argue against free pubic transportation in Detroit where there’s a lot of political influence in favor of individual vehicle ownership.

You missed the step where the government subsidizes the manufacturing of EVs so that they can be sold for less than they cost to build at market rates for material and labor. Or was that implied in your step 2?

Keep talking with your psychiatrist.

I don’t think the charging stations are making anyone but the installers any money either.