A sign of the times

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Cake day: July 3rd, 2023
  • Blake@monero.towntoMonero@monero.town•Monero black marble 0day attack guide? Real or nah?English
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    3 months ago

    hi antidarknet

    cool site and nice job stresstesting XMR. look forward to seeing more of your projects in the future!

    Makes me wonder about other vulnerabilities there could be - particularly regarding dark markets, xmr escrow services etc.

    regarding your point

    Unless you’re criminal you shouldn’t be worried in any way.

    A criminal is someone defined by the state as having broken a law. Likewise a legal action is one which happens to coincide with a state’s edict (law). but libertarian maximalists or anarchists wouldn’t agree. hence why you were called a bootlicker.

    whilst it’s perfectly righteous to fight what you see as harmful, there’s an argument for freedom, particularly in the case of drugs where it is usually the user who is the only one at risk of harm (if we follow the harm principle rather than legal/illegal). yes the drug trade can harm too - but that could also be because it is ‘illegal’ and has to take place in a non-ideal marketplace.

    that being said, I have my own limits as to what is moral so I agree that you should pursue yours. but I will do things that are illegal, and I encourage you to do so too. perhaps one day using monero will be ‘illegal’! </end philosophical sidebar>

  • Blake@monero.towntoMonero@monero.town•WARNING: Reto-HavenoEnglish
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    5 months ago

    I regularly run Haveno Reto, it’s max userbase is 10 but the average is about 8 online at any one time.

    I don’t think that it’s a honeypot as it doesn’t make sense. The author argues that the main vulnerability is the manipulation of node selection - but users are free to self-host nodes and use any node, it’s not baked into the program. Anyone can set up a ‘malicious’’ Monero node anyhow. As others have mentioned it seems like the kid who wrote the diss track doesn’t really know what’s going on (was it Majestic?). Lastly, they end by saying they are a competitor - but they just stopped their work on a localmonero clone - and are leaving the community forever - but please share this post around. Something smells off. But we have to take each anonymous opinion semi-seriously in the internet apparently.

    Besides all that, Haveno’s not used very much (yet?). There are a few trades offered but none in my jurisdiction. Perhaps this will grow with time, but as yet we aren’t seeing ‘mass adoption’ despite delisting and shutdowns of other p2p exchanges.

    I’m more up for posting crypto > XMR trades but it’s not quite clear to me how ‘Instant’ crypto trades are settled, and there was a recent warning about unfulfilled instant crypto-xmr trades being punished. It would be nice to just post up liquidity with a small margin and have it be able to autocomplete trades whilst afk. A boy can dream!

    If I were to make the case against Haveno it would be thus:

    1. There is no account reputation, like localmonero, to identify users who have regularly fulfilled contracts and are more trustworthy.

    1.a. This means that I personally would want 100% backing of the deal in Haveno, which locks away someone’s xmr, an unappealing offer.

    1.b. Even then we would depend on the fair arbitration to ensure the deal was finished. Fine for crypto trades within Haveno but cash by mail trades? It took localmonero/agora a long time to establish its reputation, and it is a tough job to arbitrate even with 2 benign actors.

    1. I have not seen enough evidence that the Arbitrators are fair, non-malicious actors. This is not to say they are bad actors - just there isn’t evidence either way.

    2.b. The first username I saw of an arbitrator was on the aforementioned warning notice which (no shade) wasn’t written in the best English, I suspect English as 2nd language bu. Hopefully this improves.

    1. When it was released upon the public, people talked about multiple Haveno instances in competition, muh free market. However, it quickly dwindled to one - I see this as a vulnerability. Even if the diss track’s critique is not valid, it could still be compromised in some unknown way and we wouldn’t have another instance of Haveno viable as an alternative. There was HardenedSteel but it was quickly deprecated. Does anyone know of another instance? I’d happily run both.

    tl;dr : despite being a decentralised p2p facility, Haveno Reto depends on good-faith in arbitrators and whilst it’s in beta it’s an easy target for fud.