Third parties should be running House candidates and putting ads on airtime for them. You aren’t going to win an election if it’s based on people doing research instead of you doing heavy advertisement.

Third parties should try doing anything noteworthy to get attention. The parties and their candidates don’t deserve anything intrinsically.

There was just an article I saw today about Republicans helping Cornel West’s campaign in Arizona

Those are perfect races for third parties to get into

Pretty much the entire operating philosophy and goal of third parties is wrong.

Like you’ve said “Getting your name out there” has been a complete failure. I think it’s safe to say at this point that it doesn’t work. If Democrats or Republicans had used it as a strategy, they’d be rightfully dragged.

The “do well enough to get national funding” goal hasn’t worked either. Ross Perot got 8% with the Reform party, but no ones even heard of that party.

This is why I consider third parties to just be grifts and scams. Either that, or they’re truly stupid.

You’ve inadvertently highlighted the problem. There’s a third party, Party for Socialism and Liberation, that certainly isn’t liberal. But you’ve never even heard of them from the sounds of it. They’d do much better if instead of running an expensive presidential campaign, they put up candidates in your districts and ran ads for them.

This is my point though. It should be a higher priority for running a candidate in every congressional district and running local ads for them.

Thanks!

Did it? My understanding is that the draft and footage of their children dying in war is what reshaped the public opinion.

Genuinely asking though, it was before my time.

How does de la Cruz intend to stop arms shipments without any congressional representation to push legislation to do so?

If Congress says money must be spent on sending Israel weapons, then the president has to follow that in some capacity. The president could try to stop shipments, but that would result in a swift court case, and the president would be compelled to continue sending weapons. The executive branch has discretion in how to do so, but it unfortunately does not have the authority to end it.

You need Congress if you’re going to stop all shipments. Alternatively I suppose you could try to have the judiciary in your favor, but that means de la Cruz now needs the Supreme Court on her side.

It’s a complete misconception in American society and politics that the president can do anything. They’re certainly the most powerful single individual, but Congress is still much stronger.

The Party for Socialism and Liberation would be much better served trying to win Congressional races so they can push for bills to end weapon shipments. If they could take a number of strong Republican districts with their message, it would give them a lot more influence.

If voting third-party were purely symbolic, there wouldn’t be this many people on Lemmy trying to persuade us to not do it

This is a logical fallacy. If lighting myself on fire as protest were purely symbolic, then why are all of my friends persuading me to not do it?

Sometimes people trying to convince/persuade you against something isn’t because you actually have a point – but because your ideas will lead to harm.

Yeah the Nazis would’ve never come to power if everyone just abstained from voting instead of coalescing under one lesser evil /s

I’ve seen two interesting spins on the trolley problem recently.

1. “Just blow up the trolley.” This is actually a very apt description of accelerationism. Blowing up the trolley doesn’t stop the forward momentum – it just turns the trolley barrelling towards the trapped people into a fiery wreckage barreling towards the trapped people. Plus if there’s people on the trolley… Yeah.

2. “Untie the trapped people while other people push back and stop the trolley”. This is once again rather emblematic, this time of blind idealism. The idea that if we get enough people, then we can stop the trolley, sounds good on paper and makes you feel nice. But it ignores the reality that people cannot hold back a trolley like that. It just isn’t possible for the necessary number of people to simultaneously push back against it.

Not to mention, the whole point of the trolley problem is that the trolley is a metaphor for an unstoppable event that is impossible to avoid. It’s nice to think we could dismantle it, but we can’t.

Ah my favorite self flagellating liberal! What’s keeping you around this community, then? Is this easier than finally facing the mirror?

right now!

How, pray tell?

What else wouldn’t you do to stop a genocide?

“Your lack of support for Democrats may end up empowering people who will throw me in jail just for who I am”

“Stop being lazy and go improve a better party”

You’re entitled to your opinion dude, but you were a major dick here.

Trans people are not a monolith. There’s other trans people in this thread begging us to vote for Biden for their safety. Your feelings about being a rhetorical token are not invalid, but recognize that other people in your vulnerable group are legitimately crying out for help.

Either way, I’m glad I’m not one of your loved ones. Your own safety is one thing. Their safety is another.

I’m not going to support a genocide to stop anything!

Ironically, not even to stop a genocide. You’d rather two genocides happen than try to at least prevent one.

If the trolley is going to run over people regardless, and you have the option afterwards to prevent it from running over more people, the moral option is not abstaining.

Pro lifers who don’t believe in any exceptions believe abortions are genocide as well, and are willing to accept any and all consequence of total bans. There’s a similarity with your thinking, and it’s one you should seriously examine.

Your opinion is your own, as are your beliefs. Just be aware of their consequences and how others may perceive your morality.

I’m afraid all of us don’t have that much free time. But hey, if you can get them to stop being anti science and actually become a serious party, I’ll consider them.

Just don’t expect me to accept the Green Party’s many imperfections. If you don’t accept the Democrat’s imperfections, then you should perfectly understand.

You get it! We can’t fuck over vulnerable people. We can’t abandon minorities and LGBT people. Even if we let things get worse to the point of a societal collapse, a lot of people will die because of it – and societal collapse has not historically led to better societies down the road.