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Cake day: June 10th, 2023

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  • At the same time that “little bit at a time” change can 100% come from a well reasoned argument, the first step i took was to cut out beef since it’s by far the worst food for the climate and it really isn’t difficult to stop eating it (both pork and chicken are readily available and tasty, so it’s basically just a matter of checking ingredient lists for stuff like meatballs and sausages).

    I think the key thing is just that people have to be presented with an immediate action they can take that isn’t some huge sacrifice, and ideally actually benefits them in some way.
    Like to make people drive less: Maybe ask them if they’ve considered that an electric moped would be MUCH cheaper to operate, way easier to find parking for at work, and means that a person at home can still have access to the car. That’s very reasonable for a lot of people and might well lead to them ditching the car entirely.


  • I think there’s a distinction to be made between “This thing is bad”, and “Doing this thing makes you a bad person”.

    Telling people in a gentle and understanding way that they’re doing something bad, is good. You just have to be very careful to adjust your language to the people your speaking to.
    But saying that people are bad for doing the bad thing is pretty shitty, it might feel righteous but it’s extremely unlikely to result in anything but alienating those you talk to.

    This is why i’m “flexitarian”, mostly just eat chicken and i try to eat as little as possible, but i’ll eat the odd bit of other meat depending on circumstances. I acknowledge that eating meat is “objectively” bad, but that there’s also a limit to how much i can actually change my diet without feeling miserable, and it’s quite nice to be able to tell people “Well you can just do what i do, sticking to chicken is really not that difficult at all, give it a try!”


  • This is why i try as hard as i can to phrase things as “i really think you should consider not doing XYZ” or if it’s really severe “So: you doing XYZ is objectively quite shitty, i hope you can accept that and be motivated to stop doing it because it makes you feel bad, but also i don’t hate you for it it just makes me sad”

    Like with veganism we should all eat as little meat as we can. Eating meat is bad in so many ways but obviously it can be quite difficult to stop, so i don’t judge people for eating meat but i will judge people for ignoring that it is bad and refusing to even consider changing their habits, just try to eat less meat or at least switch to meats that are less bad.


  • Reading these comment sections is always a fucking baffling experience: On one side there’s people who projectile vomit at the thought of meat and act like this is the utterly universal experience, and on the other side there’s people who don’t eat potatoes because they’re vegetables and who insist that all vegan meat substitutes decompose on exposure to the atmosphere.

    I sincerely hope these are all just bots, because if you people actually live like this it’s very sad.
    In reality, vegan meat substitutes are very very very obviously perfectly fine aside from the fact that the title of this post is borderline a lie, i certainly don’t see anything remotely like this on my store shelves where vegan meat generally costs 10-20% more than the equivalent pork or chicken product.

    If vegan meats were actually clearly cheaper than animal protein all poor people would be flocking to it, but that certainly doesn’t seem to have happened yet…