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Cake day: November 12th, 2023

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  • You’re conflating two entirely different debates.

    Yes - there has been some debate around western publishers overly aggressively “localizing” manga and/or changing details to not just make things more understandable to western readers, but deliberately altering social /political content to accord with their own views. The two broad positions in that debate are to continue to depend on western publishers and their translations, or to keep translation in-house - under the supervision of the Japanese publishers.

    This debate starts from the position that translation will be kept in-house, and concerns how it will be done - whether by human translators or AI. The publishers want to use AI for one and only one reason - because it would be cheaper. The JAT’s position is that machine translation is so vastly inferior that it will not work, and that human translators must be used.


  • As is always the case, all publishers need to do is look at the scanlation community to see how things will or will not work, since the scanlators are already doing, for free, what the publishers hope to do for profit. Whatever problems exist and whatever solutions there are to those problems, the scanlators have already discovered.

    And if they would only do that, they would discover, for instance, that MTL, presented as a finished product on its own, is so blatantly crappy that it’s essentislly universally derided, with the only split being between the people who might grudgingly tolerate it in a specific case and the people who reject it outright.

    There’s no need for the JAT to argue that case when vivid proof that they’re right already exists in virtually every comment section of every machine translated manga.

    But instead, the publishers consistently make choices that any halfway decent scanlator could tell them are going to fail to appeal to the fans, which choices then - surprise surprise - fail to appeal to the fans.


  • Huh.

    I would’ve expected, if I saw news about this series, that it would be to announce that it was being axed. It seems a bit late in the game for an adaptation.

    Granted - I dropped it a couple of years ago and it might’ve improved since then, but it just doesn’t seem likely that it actually has.

    It was decent enough when it started - if nothing else, the art is charming and the girls are all cute, and all in different (if tropish) ways.

    But Medaka and his whole situation always came off a bit vague and contrived, and as it went on, it just got more and more obviously and awkwardly contrived. He didn’t get any sort of character development really - he was just assigned a handful of traits and reactions, given a handwaved backstory that sort of vaguely gave them something that sometimes resembled context, and inserted into the story.

    And beyond being cute, the female leads really didn’t bring anything interesting to the mix either. Mona is the class idol, but she’s actually self-conscious and insecure. Asahi is the cute sporty girl, but she’s actually self-conscious and and insecure. And Namba is the cool beauty, but she’s actually - surprise surprise - self-conscious and insecure.

    And… that’s about it really - a selection of cute but insecure girls and a guy who cycles back and forth between stoic and awkward because something something monastery.

    Again though - maybe it unexpectedly improved after I dropped it. I dunno - it just seems odd to me that it’s getting an adaptation this late in the game.


  • Spent part of the day checking this out.

    It’s a light novel original. There’s a manga adaptation, and that’s where I started. It wasn’t very good though, and I was pretty sure, as is often the case when a lot of the text in the original is the thoughts inside the protagonist’s head, that the manga was just skipping over big chunks of it. I kept plugging away through four chapters (mostly because they were done by Skythewood, and I trust their judgement - our tastes strongly overlap), but then found that 5 and 6 are missing from mangadex, some sort of sniping war has broken out starting with chapter 7, and Skythewood has apparently dropped it.

    In sorting all of that out, I discovered that Skythewood has been translating the light novel, so I just read that instead. And discovered that the manga has indeed left out huge chunks of the original.

    It’s pretty good all in all. It’s very definitely of the “oddly proud and determined loner finds himself surrounded by pretty girls” subgenre that seemed to really take off with the success of Oregairu. The twist with this one, and to its credit, is that all of the girls are romantic losers who initially turn to the protagonist for a shoulder to cry on (either figuratively or literally), then it expands from there, as they come to appreciate him more broadly and he starts coming out of his self-imposed exile.

    And thankfully the anime art appears to be based on the LN illustrations rather than the manga.

    So - IMO, the LN is pretty good, the anime is promising, and the manga can be ignored.