My take away is the same. That was more of a “debate” than we have had in literal years.

I think walz did good. He held his ground and had some very solid jabs. He knows his roll as second man and backup and played it well.

Vance… did suprisingly well, and will definately be a threat in the future, based on his debate skills at least. This is practice for him regardless of how the election turns out. Experience is what he lacks, and the national stage will hone him over the next few years.

All in all, ill say no clear winner for the debate on face value. It was a show for the sake of the show. But ill absolutely be paying attention in the coming years. One scandal can sink vance, and if past gop tendancies are anything, there will be one. Walz is fairly bulletproof in that regard.

That was a good effort from both sides tbh.

People dont remember trump as president from under 4 years ago and are saying things whent great when he was in power… It absolutely is a long time.

Sell the houses?

So the fun thing about genetics is… if you said no, but they conned enough of your family, they got a good part of your genome anyhow.

In my case, Mom was somewhat interested about it when it came out. Dad too. And i told them no to, because, well one, sharing data bad. But also, this buisiness is a one off. There are no repeat customers and it was destined to be sold to the highest bidder.

For once, my parents listened. But good god. This company has already been mined by police to use genetic info from relatives to convict their family members. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/27/magazine/dna-test-crime-identification-genome.html

Murder convictions and serial rapists going to jail, i got no problem with, but that slippery slope exists. And from years of experience, im not inclined to give the authorities my data, even by proxy. The abuse potential is immense and history is not on the average citizens side.

Refurbished s21fe here. Im not buying flagships anymore. I will never make full use of the capabilities of this phone.

Now, when it hits sub $300. Maybe im interested then.

My closest superstore an hour drive away. 60 miles. The closest grocer is 12 miles. My closest international airport is 1.5 hours away. It is also the closest regional airport. 85 miles. The closest national park is 3 hours. I live 6 miles from my closest town.

There are no passenger trains, busses, or taxis. Or uber.

Rural america is empty. And spread out. We get along fine, but public transit will never exist here. Cars are the only way.

Ill be honest, ill take it. But im so confused right now… is this how progress is supposed to happen? Its been so long. I didnt draw the line, they did, and still here we are. At something reasonable?

Still. I must reiterate, fuck mtg, but… support her this time? Fuck.

Im not so sure he can do that tbh.

Theres a metaphor there somewhere…

Not suprised. His entire campaign has been as a spoiler. A fairly transparent one at that. His dad fought mobsters. He sucks up to them.

If only his dad and uncle could see him now… so much for the kennedy legacy.

And they have processes in place to make sure you wouldnt be on that jury.

Vocal knowledge of jury nullification is grounds for dismissal.

Prior intent to nullify is basically perjury. Now you are both in jail

See, the system works! /s

Im reluctant to ask, but i feel obligated to do so. what in your mind is the difference in this scenario?

I feel your reasoning will tell alot. Lets go.

Im most impressed that he did go there. Dnc approved or not, fake news or not, it was a good zinger. Meet them at their level, but do it better.

Finally the dems are paying attention on how this stupid game is played. Thank fucking god.

Its very clear by now i dont actually read or understand any of the far aim’s. So yes. Fully endorsed!

Btw, im a pilot and i use arch.

Im licking my piper when it gets out of annual. Thank you.

Edit. I just realized what the number of the FAR was… still doing it, but you got me.

How has no one mentioned “The Big O”?

Its basically bruce wayne with a gundam suit!

Your right. Shes not left enough… might as well vote for trump or skip.

Seriously though. Are you paying attention? We dont get the perfect candidate now.dont shoot yourself in the foot. You’re already a locked in voter i assume. If trump was 50/50 with biden, what makes you think he loses with us nit picking? Shes right of biden? Guess who is more right from that. Hope for whitmere or aoc as vp if your feathers are that ruffled. Newsom if you really want. But kamala is the ticket and whining about it loses the election.

Ok. But fuck, if you have to have a cop out, waffle house excuse to say newsom, i have a hard time believing you. Newsome is hard for the fact that hes a “hard D” california govenor and you take a good hit in the swing states. Thats a real liability. Thats fair. Stand by it. Say that. “But Bernie” my ass. Bernie doesnt want it now.

Dont say “oh no” and not have an honest opinion that you arent willing to put your nuts behind. Get on board, or gtfo.

I swear. As a dem, and ill be honest, what pisses me off the most is that we are our own worst enemy. We waffle and push for a vauge replacement with no game plan, and removed and moan when the answer given “just isnt quite what we want”.

We could have had an honest to god game plan a year ago. But we didnt get our shit together. Thats on you, thats on me, and its sure as fuck on the DNC. But we dont have that option now.

Fucks sake. Rant over. Sorry for being frustrated at a two word post and a half baked response. Fuck.

Ok. Fine… who would you pick?

There is a reason for her being the transition cannidate. If you have better, please let the DNC know…

Gotta correct for wind…