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  • my point isn’t to say that the ellection interference in 2016 did not happen , but that I don’t think its reasonable to assert that a topic is being influenced by Russian trolls by virtue of it being something Russia might have a vague interest in .

    not to say that any suspicions are invalid , of course , but again from what I understand , Russia has a very “one topic at a time” approach , which should be taken to mean there is a limited number of affected communities , which from past examples appear “home grown” .



  • honestly I don’t think your conclusion is that accurate as you are missing a common factor between RT/Sputnik and MAGA : both are right wing nationalists .

    while from what I remember there is some evidence showing that the raise of the new alt-right in the US is not fully organic , I feel like saying their views are just astroturfed end of discussion is quite pointless .

    just to make my point clear : Israel also has a online propaganda campaign which often aligns itself with the views of the Democratic party in the US . one could say something along the lines of “It couldn’t be any clearer. What are the odds that Democrat views nearly in 100% [of cases] overlaps with Israeli best interests?” suggesting that the entirety of the Democratic party’s support is artificial , which is made easier by the exsiance of Israeli funded political organizations in the US .

    but this is of course bullshit . the impact of Israel’s foreign politics is not the entirely of the Democratic party , nor is it correct to say that everyone who says anything positive about the Democratic party is a “Hasbara troll” . (also of course as neonazis on twitter have realised , Trump is as also affected by these forces , no you don’t want to know)

    I believe this also should be applied to the other side : Trump has tapped into preexisting American sentiments towards right wing nationalism and with a mixture of luck , charisma and support from both national and foreign interest groups rallied them around himself .

    mind you I’m not saying this to paint the views of Trump’s supporters as legitimate , I hold quite opposite views , but because I think your analysis is limited .

    lets take the EU as an example : an American nationalist will quite naturally hold some distrust of foreign blocks , which is then compounded by the EU having some liberal policies . its not necessary for a foreign entity to artificially create these views since they are a natural extension of other views this political group has .