Thoughts haven’t changed too much, If what we’re hearing is true (big if) Then at the last minute the Americans took what was a bad deal and made it absolutely horrible. And carney did the right thing and walked away. I think that’s what pretty much all of the premier’s work and the polls suggest you won’t suffer for it. In the end though it was the only real choice we had. We can’t give away our sovereignty

But the challenge now is going to be whether or not he has a plan to fight the war he just picked to fight the war he just picked. He should have been preparing for this for over a year knowing that it was always a possibility but he really didn’t do much to prepare us like curb spending or the like.

Trump is getting his ass kicked and I ran because he picked a war without realizing or thinking about how he was going to get a win and an exit. If we don’t have a plan the same thing will happen to us

I would hope he has a plan to put as much pressure on trump as possible. I would spend hundreds of millions if I were him in adverts similar to what Ontario did and her ass trump across America before the primaries. I would be very specific about which products I tariffed and I would probably focus on export tariffs. Things like energy and potash etc are going to hurt them the most and drive their inflation up which will embarrass the hell out of trump

If he just sits there and doesn’t do anything besides put a few tariffs in place we’re going to get slaughtered. The Americans can outwait us

That seems like a very odd rumour :) i’m not even sure how one 'humps a couch" (and i’m just fine with keeping it that way btw)

LOL couch humper? Where does that come from?

Well if that’s the strategy they’re going to run the clock straight into the ground at the straight into the ground at this point. We have been losing on all fronts and although we don’t know the details of this deal yet it’s not sounding terribly promising

We can’t afford to go two years of a bad deal in the hopes that somebody will get in next time that will give us a better deal. I would remind you that it’s usually the democrats that are being anti-canadian trade and the unions that push for that kind of stuff. There’s no reason to believe that a democrat administration would be any nicer about it if the deals are already in place. And no guarantee it won’t be JD Vance or somebody who wins the next election

We are losing this trade war. Final deal is as bad as they’re suggesting then carney will have failed utterly and completely in his promise to handle trump and trump will have won. We can only hope that is better than they’re making it out

We don’t know the details of the deal yet but it certainly doesn’t sound like we won much.

““And the whole point of this is to change Canada’s behaviour,” Vance said. “Which they, you know, not entirely, but they’ve certainly shifted in a Trumpian direction.””

Well that doesn’t sound good

The problem is that these groups prey on people who get scared because they see muslim protests where people are calling for the destruction of canada and the like and the gov’t really does nothing. These groups pitch the idea that “the gov’t is selling you out to these people and you’re next whitey”.

Right now there is a very strong feeling of division, where people perceive that the Muslims are out to get people or the Jews are out to get people or the left is out to get people etc etc and the government really allows this kind of thing to happen to an excessive amount. We saw a couple hundred churches burnt over the last few years in Canada and the government basically remains silent. They’ve done nothing substantial to fight anti-Semitism, and they’ve done little to rain in the true extremists amongst the generally peaceful Muslim Community.

I fear this gets worse before it gets better

Well… at least he’s consistent! And that’s hard to find in this day and age…

LOL sorry, i use voice dictation for several reasons and it does that sometimes and i don’t always catch it. It’s ‘riding’

Well the NDPis always an option. If you kind of like the conservatives but you don’t like the current candidates you should probably get involved with your local writing association and see about helping to pick a candidate that you like. Or if you’ve already got a conservative MP in your writing meet with his or her policy committee or them directly and talk about what you’d like to see different. You’d be amazed at how much of an effect that has and if you feel that way then there’s bound to be others who also feel that way.

Democracy isn’t about just showing up once every four or five years to vote after all 😁

Well, it’s kind of complicated 😁

We signed the original deal a decade and change ago and then built the bridge. The deal was that all revenues would go to canada until the 4.5 billion usd price was paid back, then it would go to income splitting.

Trump said ‘nope’ and Carney and trump agreed to a new deal. But Carney would not let the details be released. However the documents have since been leaked, and we BELIEVE the leaked version is correct. The liberals have not said otherwise.

The new deal is a more of a preliminary deal document which is being finalized, but the terms of the deal are laid out.

Carney said the new deal still included the ‘pay back canada for the bridge’ clause, but its’ pretty clear from the leaked doc that it does not. Carney has subsequently said he "could have explained that better’ and does not deny that will no longer be the case.

There is also a requirement now to pay into a ‘development fund’ for ‘the area’ which is thought to mean it would be spent on the US side, and may even go to maintenance of the competing bridge. The libs refuse to confirm or deny that.

So … the NEW deal is still in place but there are a few elements which SOUND pretty bad but we’re not sure about. It seems certain however that when carney said (two times) that the bridge would include repayment he was not speaking accurately. Some say he lied, some say he may have been “misbriefed,” but either way it looks horrible and hence the pic

This confirms my long held belief that hedgehogs would be fun at parties. They’d be like little mobile snack trays

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