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I like to think of it as depression on the societal level, which has only gotten worse and more widespread amongst the population over the decades. The stagnation of living standards, decline in real life third spaces, and the failure of liberalism to explain away the symptoms of empires decline might cause psychological distress of the likes of Doomerism. Why do I say that?

I think the definition of doomerism as the last standing leg of individual liberalism, that nothing ever gets done, and oneself cannot influence the realities they are confronted with, is really helpful to be expanded from the individual to the masses.

As we, as society, are forced to revise our models of thinking about the world and the place we all take in it, we are essentially stripping us of our old abilities to cope, and questioning every source of stability we have taken for granted. While changing our tools of thought, even the space of our own mind begins to shed of its old identity, being stripped of the now unstable foundation.

I think that for some, the pandemic might have been the push from the habitual, albeit relative psychological safety, to the presumed maliciousness of those that practice the now dying western culture.

As a kid i didn’t understand what some call ‘culture’, and guess I still don’t, but what I’m certain about is that it is dying with this current liberalism. The capitalists repression of new generations participation in society, their hopes of a better future, that is build with them, may play a big part.

Heck, I see a lot of my peers struggling with the ability to talk to each other, how do we then even create new culture then? We don’t party, we don’t meet each other, most of us don’t even know how to make friends, nor how to grow up and become a person that we aspired to be as kids.

I just wait for the climate crisis ramping up again this summer. Real fun.

Tl;dr:

Tbh we cooked. Old cultures dyin, everyones feelin it. Either we all remain blind to the demise capitalism forces upon our present societal structures, or we get rid of those damn contradictions, and may have a cultural revolution (god this time better be good or we dead)

Are you secretly me?

I used to have two such friend groups. One full of NDs like myself, the other became weirdly over years thanks to the manosphere and joe rogan types during lockdown. Both of em started at roughly the same spot, but the ND group started to affiliate themselves more and more with the irony pilled online-fascists, memeing the wehrmacht (they’re not even remotely of german decent, mind you), and aren’t able to be talked to about anything anymore. I’d say its real life brain rot, and even though they used to be nice ppl, I didn’t feel safe keeping contacts at all. (I always asked questions to understand why they repeat after what those irony pilled fascistoids say, but it didn’t bear any fruit)

The ones that became incels used to be chill, but one of them filled the group with incel-cope about not getting a date, and vented non-stop about other personal problems, increasingly blaming women and non-whites for his problems.

The moment I cut contact, it felt like I freed myself, and could finally start to know what respecting my boundaries and values is like. The loneliness I felt for the period after that wasn’t all to nice, but I’d do it all the same.

Being bombarded with transphobic, misanthropic, misogynistic and racist shit all the time is disgusting me on the web, and yet I still let it into my personal spaces.

While I used to hang during their radicalisation (and me starting hormones n social transition), it seems to me, staying just enabled their bigotry.

I used to think that I can, after some time, understand why they act the way they do, but its not worth my mental if they don’t even care to introspect themselves.

And yeah, I even went on vacation with em. It was weird and uncomfortable af tbh.

I wish you the best on your path, and hope you can enjoy the weekend trip non-the-less. ^^

The absence of blatant racism / supremacism really does help ground myself when I’m feeling stressed. I’m white passing, and while everyone but my grandfather learned german as a second language, my german is abhorent being born here. English became my primary language rather effortlessly.

I became somewhat misanthrophic after peers of mine consistently wanted to bond over their racism, not knowing my background. I grew up not knowing much german, using a mix of my both parents languages, making learning german culture undesirable for me.

High german and german culture feels foreign and forced upon me personally, but I didn’t have a single culture and community I could completely call my own, which posed a set of problems I would encounter every other time I was trying to socialize.

I see that many people like me don’t really learn their parents language, nor the local one, but get drawn to english as their primary one (Especially if they’re born after the millenium). Being a third culture kid isn’t easy.

That being said, I am really grateful to have this space to breathe on the web, which isn’t primitively tribalistic, but focused on human values. I want to thank you for bringing this thought up.

I definitely felt like that for the beginning of my learning, but nowadays I just feel confused by every kind of media and discussion around me being painted in lib views, to the point of experiencing paranoia / delusion. Glad that those times are behind me, but now I tend to devolve into blood boiling anger if I’m by myself, but try to remind me to ask others questions about their understanding, instead of devolving into debate culture. lol

Not only that, but I always notice how peers of mine dont even know how to respond anymore without some unconcious level of sarcasm / cynicism; covering the numbness we experience in social settings. When we break out of it, and begin to feel, most of us are stunned and at a loss of words.

I hope that I’m just too young, and we begin to have some level of social cohesion, instead of hopping between asthetics we would like to call ours. I think, as a generation, we have become too uncertain to have our own perception, instead prefering to live in the hyperreal.

(I don’t want to say this from a doomer perspective, but more as my confused two cents from the main european vassal state.)

I recently got seriously ill with multiple symptoms, but nobody wanted to take a look. 2min ‘counseling’ is the best you get if you’re younger than 50, regardless of symptoms. Instantly got prescribed placebo medication and antibiotics that didn’t help. After staying home for 3 months, getting back into routine was actually scary. Glad I kinda saved for such cases. But hey, don’t even dare to bring up your own research, since the ‘experts’ might get hurt they have to do something.

For the past 5 years, the acceleration of climate change here in west germany has become too obvious to ignore.

I’m not old enough to remember ever seeing much snow laying around, but I do know that having up to 25 degrees in april isn’t something that was supposed to be.

Also, what about the greenery in our cities? I fear we would have to replace every tree and plant manually, to not live with permanent dead wood around us.