So, did I understood correctly that just getting pixel with GrapheneOS is way out?

I can’t really say anything about that, sorry. I’m not familiar with GrapheneOS or Google Pixel. As far as I know, Play Services can apparently be installed in a sandbox?.. but I didn’t quite get it either. So I can’t say whether the system will be affected by Google’s rules. Sorry I can’t help further.

Sadly yes

Thanks for sharing your thoughts so openly. Sorry my message came off as “low energy” to you. But to me, it still holds up logically. Google makes money mostly from ads and our data. The more people boycott their products, the less funding goes to things like Project Nimbus. De-googled setups, a phone, an app, a browser, give me hope. This isn’t just about privacy for me, it’s about human rights! And i hope ther will coming more Alternatives.

Again: Thanks for sharing your openion so openly.

That’s great to hear. Good luck! I wish I could de-Google my family too.

I’m currently testing /e/OS from Murena myself, but on a Fairphone 6, not a Murena device. The system itself is fine. Takes some getting used to, but no problem. Hope you enjoy it =D

You make a good point. And its so true. I know a lot of people who also dont care about Google Problems.

I’m just familiar with /e/OS so far. I’ve disabled microG and don’t use a single Google app. But I can’t judge the people who using it. The problem is really the ecosystem. Many companies build on Google, which means they’re not independent. The End result is : There are no real alternatives. So people only know Google and nothing else

Hey, honestly I don’t know much about GrapheneOS. I only know it’s available for Google Pixels. But you’re right. All Google-certified devices will be ‘locked down!’

Hey. I’m trying to see everything positively though. I know its sucks, and im angry too. But how secure can a Google-certified device be AGAINST GOOGLE anyway? I could only deactivate the systems, which is why I wanted to buy an /e/OS device. And the news from F-Droid that Google was going to pull this shit was the kick in the ass I needed to finally buy a Fairphone with /e/OS.

I believe you may mean Darth Vader…

😅You’re right. Thanks for the correction!

You have a good point. I also know many of people who have no clue about this. I talked a lot about this but they dont care. Anyway for me, every setback, even if it’s just a brief blip for Google is a triumph. Of course , a longer triumph will be great, but yeah… that is just my openion. And thanks again, for the Darth Vader Correction 👍🏻

Is there a program or a way to tell what apps currently on ones phone will be affected by this?

Hi.

As far as I know, there is no program with which you can check this.

But, I know that for example F-Droid apps on Google-certified devices will no longer be usable, because these apps are not registered in the Play Store. According to the KeepAndroidOpen page, this will no longer work.

I want to add: According to the Samsung Galaxy Store Seller Portal, apps that are already installed will remain usable, just without updates.

Hopes, that helped.

Upgrading Lumo is really great. For me, it’s a wonderful alternative to ChatGPT. However, I have a question regarding the web search feature. Which index are you using? I boycott big tech companies and don’t want to send data to their servers, even not anonymously! I contacted the Proton support team, and they assured me that you don’t use Google or Bing APIs and that Proton is experimenting with Mojeek, Brave, and Kagi. But Kagi is a meta-search engine that, as far as I know, accesses Google. I’m therefore confused. An answer would be appreciated. Thanks

Hello. That connection thing is cool. So I have no experience with meta-search engines. I gave up on Brave after I learned that it’s hosted on AWS. My only search engine is Mojeek because it’s not hosted on big tech like, Azure AWS, or Google Cloud.

🖐🏻I using Mojeek.

Peace be with you🌹🌹🌹🌹

That’s wonderful. I’ve also deGoogled myself and bought a Fairphone with e/os. I hope many others will also disconnect from Google.

Well, I’m not familiar with iOS design. I only know the classic bar at the bottom of iPhones and find the usage really difficult for me. On the Fairphone, I had the choice between Android or iOS design, and I chose Android. The interface works like Android.

I don’t think the design is terrible either. Though I suppose it’s a matter of taste.

It’s great that you’re boycotting all of that. And I also hope more people switch from Google. I talk about it constantly.

To your question: Unfortunately, I can’t help you with that. Sorry. I’m still exploring the system myself. Maybe you could create a post in the Fairphone community.

I never try it, but I dont think so. When it comes to location, I’m really clueless. I meant Instagram, TikTok, even Lemmy. Sorry I kind of sidestepped your actual question. I meant it in general.

No no. It’s not a downgrade. When it comes to privacy, Organic Map definitely progress. I wouldn’t use Google Maps even if it teleported me to the place. It’s just different, like you said. Took some getting used to, like I said, but that’s for anything new. It’s easy for me right now to use it. Most people aren’t just ready to give up comfort though, and I see that every single day. 🙁

Hey! I tried it, but my phone opened the camera instead of the flashlight. But yeah still awesome =D

Ah yes, that’s true. I know that problem too. My family doesn’t use it either. Sorry I couldn’t be more helpful.

Ah, sorry. I don’t have experience with that myself. Its my first Fairphone with e/OS. Maybe someone else in the community has tried this and can share their experience?