The Fallout show was so much fun. Looking forward to the next season.
I have seen so many people say it’s good but I watched it with my wife and at around episode 3 she described it as aggressively mid which I heavily agree with and we stopped watching. Felt like the writers of Fallout 4 were involved and were told to tone down the excitement. Does it get like a lot better later in the season or are our tastes just different?
Felt like the writers of Fallout 4 were involved and were told to tone down the excitement.
Wow that’s a damning statement, given how atrociously written Fallout 4 was.
It’s significantly better written and much more coherant than fallout 4
I mean that’s good, because I legitimately don’t remember the plot of Fallout 4 and I finished that game, and did a couple of partial playthroughs in addition to try for the DLCs, which I never finished.
The only thing I really remember is that it was super against robots for some reason. You also had a partner and a child (did they have names? did they have genders?) you were supposed to care about but they died within the first five minutes so I doubt anyone really did.
You finished the game and think your character’s child is dead? You really did forget everything.
My guy literally forgot the entire premise of the main story lol
They’re right that it wasn’t a great story, but that’s still a pretty big thing to forget!
Oh right the MIT bit with the clone of your kid. Honestly the most memorable part of the game for me was the Salem Witch Museum, which also looks nothing like it does in real life.
I think there was also a bit where you ran away film gorillas, though they may have been alligators (not deathclaws). Don’t recall the context though, might’ve been a DLC?
The best thing to come out of Fallout 4 is the deathclaw dildo by Bad Dragon.
He wasn’t cloned, but cryogenically frozen, like the main character. He was just awoken 60 years sooner.
They probably managed to cull most of Emil Pagliarulo’s input, then
I think that part of Emil’s problem as a writer is that he writes stories that don’t allow for the player to be part of the process. It’s Emil’s story, we just play it.
Fallout 4 was such a mess because they tried to make the Institute an evil monster and a viable player faction which led to a huge conflict between the stated goals of the Institute and its actual actions. Which wouldn’t be so bad if the player could confront them about it but not being able to do so makes the player feel disconnected from the character (in my opinion).
In a TV show that need to respond to player choice doesn’t exist which is why it felt more natural. Having other writers on hand didn’t hurt either.
The 4 and a half episodes I saw felt like whoever made this just knew in broad strokes what Fallout 3 and 4 were and was told to make a movie based on that. It feels very Bethesda in it’s storytelling, the plot exists but it’s the most generic and bland as possible, no new ideas or interesting concepts and nothing to say. I feel like the only thing carrying it is the Fallout imagery and without it the show would be a solid 4/10.
Recent TV shows that I would rate as excellent would be The Expanse, From, Foundation and Lower Decks. Fallout doesn’t feel even close to any of those but people seem to really like it.
I don’t remember last time Bethesda (dev, not publisher) ever wrote a storyline that was gripping, honestly. The games tend to have at least one or two side plots that are at least a bit interesting, maybe in the form of a DLC or so, but the main story isn’t generally all that good.
The only quest I really remember from any of their recent main-line games (by recent I mean Oblivion - Fallout 4) is the one where a wife is looking for her missing husband, who ended up having escaped into a painting in order to avoid a burglar. Plot-wise it wasn’t amazing, but the storytelling thanks to it being a game, made it good. It wouldn’t have worked in a show.
I really liked Foundation. I never read those books either so maybe that’s why. I recently ranted about how atrociously bad the Netflix adaptation of Three Body was, and someone brought up thinking the same about Foundation - which caught me off guard. Couldn’t really get past the first episode because by the time the episode ended we were halfway through the first book, and we’d pulled in elements of the second and third as well. Reading Three Body was a slow burn, it left you feeling on edge as the characters were prodding around the edges of this conspiracy, which then turned out to be not what you expected. It’s also an intensely nihilistic read, which suits me great because I am intensely nihilistic. It was amazing, and the Netflix adaptation caught none of that.
I enjoyed The Expanse first time I watched it, then vanished, and now I need to re-watch it because I’ve forgotten everything. It’s just tough to get back in to since I’ve already seen it and as I’m watching I’m like “oh right, this thing” and then it gets boring. Lower Decks I’ve only seen the crossover episode from SNW, which was fun, so I’m kind of curious about it!
It has a couple of very decent episodes, but as someone who is a big Fallout fan the show seems pretty underwhelming. It’s like they wanted to lean into the grim darkness of the setting, so they decided to eliminate whatever vestiges of civilization there might have been (the Brotherhood of Steel being in a massive downward spiral as an organization and the whole Shady Sands things seemed like a copout for budget and storytellilng purposes). Not saying Fallout isn’t a bleak setting, but it’s definitely got more of an oddball humor to it that is generally pervasive through the setting, instead of the sprinkle of it we got throughout the show. I guess what I’m saying is that with something like this you have to really nail the tone, and they just sorta missed the mark on it.
seeing as the first 3 episodes barely get into more than character introduction I’d say give it a bit more time
I checked the watch history and it was 4 and a half episodes actually. Does it get any better after that?
hmm, if you’re not enjoying it by that point I’d say skip it. If you’re really into fallout lore it’s still worth watching, but otherwise yea just skip it, or read a synopsis and see if something there catches your interest enough for you to continue
The Fallout TV show is mostly “revolutionary” on the grounds of being a TV adaptation of something that doesn’t suck ass and explores the lore of Fallout in a way that’s faithful to the games and not complete nonsense, I liked it a lot, but it’s art and nobody is somehow obliged to like it lol
Oh, the lore was another thing that bothered me. For example ghouls now need a drug to not turn feral, the brotherhood being changed completely from what they were in Fallout 1, 2 and NV to some kind of pseudo religious faction that treats its members as completely disposable and Shady Sands just got bombed randomly so the NCR just doesn’t exist now.
To me it felt like the show was incredibly liberal with the lore or was just familiar of the lore in Fallout 4 and none of the rest of it.
I think thee medicine is preventative, basically if ya start turning you take. The brotherhood have different culture between chapters, imagine working under Elijah from new vegas. I believe it was Chris Avalon who said he wanted to nuke the NCR if he did another game, so this is at the very least an idea thats been floating around.
I’ve seen what they do. Gum up the works with red tape and bureaucracy, take every hard earned cent and use it to fund their Illuminati free mason sex parties.
We talking about your job or Fallout?
I would say that this guy is my spirit animal except that during some of his other scenes, he very much acted in a way contrary to what I believe I would have done.
I don’t want to say any more since the show is still new and I don’t want to ruin anything for anyone.
But this line, yes. Very yes. Most of my jobs have been like this. It’s just like, I’m only here because they pay me to be. I only do what I need to in order to not get fired.
“Lacks enthusiasm” in this case really means “doesn’t feign enthusiasm”.
Oh God that jerk kid from Hannah montana is OLD now
Rico!! Damn that’s actually the same actor lol
