• алсааас [she/they]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    pls don’t let all the liberal downvoting discourage you. posts like this are more than welcome here <3

    If Harris were actually leftwing, she’d pull that lever instantly, burn NATO to the ground, crush Isn’treal and many other based things

    but alas, she is just the “good” cop of the bourgeoisie

    (which essentially just means slapping BLM, LGBT and “feminist” stickers onto the bombs she drops wherever Wall Street requires it)

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      i’m an anarchist, but i’m also polish, and we kinda need NATO right now, with the whole Russia thing at our doorstep. i know it’s not ideal, but fuck, not many other options out there and i do enjoy not being forcibly drafted to war

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        your bourgeois state needs NATO, not the working ppl living in Poland

        In an inter-imperialist war, shouldn’t socialists from an outside country support neither side and shouldn’t socialists from a country participating in said war employ revolutionary defeatism towards “their own” bourgeois state?

        the answer to a regional imperialist power is not the largest imperialist block in the history of humanity(!)

        after all, a socialist has no country and belongs to no nation. just like working ppl everywhere

        EDIT: cmiw but isn’t supporting one bourgeois state over another and thinking of it as “one’s own” contrary to anarchist thought?

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      thanks, much appreciated. It’s very stark contrast to the real life discussions where they are mostly furious at harris & dnc. most of the time we are infact discussing that sanders, aoc and warren should create a new party as dnc has become beyond repair. they can definitely crowdfund the support like in 2016.

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        unfortunately neither Sanders, AOC, nor Warren are real solutions and never will be the solution. They mostly pay lip service to progressive causes but then actually support atrocities like the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia (in Sanders’ case).

        their job seems to be to “capture” progressive support and then endorce the reactionary candidates they actually plan on pushing. And even if they were to come to power, the best case is a renewal of capitalism so that it may exist another year/decade/century

        as the DNC has become beyond repair

        that is the case with the whole of the USA, it’s beyond repair and in dire need of abolition if humanity is to have a future. Bourgeois “democracy” is inherently designed to halt real progress and to preserve the private (not personal!) property of the rich and the economic system that makes it possible in the first place (capitalism).

        One viable future would be a socialist council democracy as one of the few true solutions

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          that’s the dream. but for now leaders like aoc, sanders are acceptable. someone like harris is not who just want to be slightly left of trump.