Kamala is going to win comfortably. Mark it.

Just a matter of how much violence and SCOTUS fuckery we’ll have to get through first.

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    Don’t vote for Trump, democrats and liberals and progressives need to stop shooting themselves in the foot saying this. Don’t encourage people to vote for Trump for any reason.

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      I’ll be honest, I’d rather see a culture of voting in general, and most apathatic people probably aren’t so driven by fear that they’ve lost themselves to conservative brainrot. Trump voters aren’t the ones staying home, we know this.

      To reiterate: Out of any avenue someone could take at voting time I hate non-voters the most and it’s not even close. They’re either completely fine with being unaware of the major decisions that run their country and impact their lives or they’re some high-horse riding dipshit acting like they’re better than everyone else while handing elections over to the worst people. I’ve also seen way to many places go conservative because of people who say shit like “I dunno [the left wing candidate(s)] just didn’t energize me” and I’m like removed I’ll fucking energize you with this here cattle prod now get moving.

      Seriously, at least a scared dipshit conservative is doing something about their situation and staying involved even if they did get stuck following liars and grifters.

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        This is an opinion I’ve held and, as you’re getting some flak for, I have as well. Apathy of voting just for the sake of D or R is one thing, but apathy to the point of not even caring who wins is even worse. As the saying goes, elections have consequences, and you can at least do something for or against those consequences. It really comes down to how willing you are to be cognizant of having an ideology or just getting sucked into one.

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        I also would love to see a culture of voting. And I think getting people to vote is great, what I am specifically trying to critique is giving expressed permission to vote for Trump, I feel it undermines the truth that he is a danger to Democracy and the world by saying you don’t actually care who they vote for.

    • I agree with you, but kinda don’t?

      The important thing is to engender a culture of engagement, and a big factor of that is getting people to the polls. Yes, I think voting for Trump is a vote to end Democracy in the US, but I think we should separate the messages. There are two distinct ones:

      1. It is important that you vote.
      2. It is important that you vote for Kamala.

      Point 1 is the more enduring one; point 2, this election, ensures we continue to have point 1. But I don’t believe we need to stop reinforcing the first point, especially because if 100% of the US voted, Kamala would win handily. That’s why Republicans are so keen on voter suppression. People, in general, will be more receptive to message 1.