• John@lemmy.ml
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    7 days ago

    Revolution is the only thing that has led to improved material conditions, even in the United States. Did you fall asleep during history class, or has it been so whitewashed and sanitized at this point that people don’t even know their own history?

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      7 days ago

      Haha, so the various colour revolutions made life better? The Iranian revolution has seen them move ahead in leaps and bounds? You have no idea if your side will come out on top

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        Some material conditions improved, yes. Overall, no. The mass movement against the Shah was successful but the working class failed to control power for various reasons, to put it succinctly.

        Do you believe that the Capitalists, bourgeoisie, and fascists will just give you rights and an improved life out of the goodness of their heart? This has never happened. Working class power threatens the system, and if threatened, Capitalism will attempt to squash that working class power.

        People think there’s some golden age of Capitalism which is progressive and bends to the will of the people. This is a fantasy, and has never existed ever in history.

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          I do believe things can change at the ballot box. Countries have come into existence through a vote, treaties have been made and broken there as well. Not saying violence hasn’t made a positive difference, but once you start using violence, you lose control of the process and the revolution you envisioned can be taken over