Many of our stories are cautionary tales about rape and murder, it’s always been aberrant behavior and our species could not survive if everyone was like that. It’s always been opposed, despite being human nature.
But nobody, absolutely nobody ever had anything against hunting and eating animals for the first 99% of our species. Hunting was necessary for survival and is universal behavior, you see everywhere in nature, unlike rape and murder.
I do oppose killing sentient animals for food, I’m also for banning industrial meat production and forcing veganism - simply because climate change mandates it. But I see no purpose in demanding that people “overcome their nature” or to be an asshole about this.
I mean, the animals we’ve been killing and eating might have disagreed. This logic only works in this particular discussion if you take an explicitly anthropocentric view of morality. In which case, the dignity of the animal is not a factor in the first place.
I’m not trying to be an asshole about this, I’m having a discussion about the foundations for our morals, and the justifications for thinking something is morally good or bad. Your initial comment intimated that you think the situation in question is morally bad because you think it’s grotesque and violates the animal’s dignity. If dignity is a factor in the morality of it, then raping cows to produce milk is also bad.
Many of our stories are cautionary tales about rape and murder, it’s always been aberrant behavior and our species could not survive if everyone was like that. It’s always been opposed, despite being human nature.
But nobody, absolutely nobody ever had anything against hunting and eating animals for the first 99% of our species. Hunting was necessary for survival and is universal behavior, you see everywhere in nature, unlike rape and murder.
I do oppose killing sentient animals for food, I’m also for banning industrial meat production and forcing veganism - simply because climate change mandates it. But I see no purpose in demanding that people “overcome their nature” or to be an asshole about this.
I mean, the animals we’ve been killing and eating might have disagreed. This logic only works in this particular discussion if you take an explicitly anthropocentric view of morality. In which case, the dignity of the animal is not a factor in the first place.
I’m not trying to be an asshole about this, I’m having a discussion about the foundations for our morals, and the justifications for thinking something is morally good or bad. Your initial comment intimated that you think the situation in question is morally bad because you think it’s grotesque and violates the animal’s dignity. If dignity is a factor in the morality of it, then raping cows to produce milk is also bad.