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    7 days ago

    It’s odd because if I am understanding correctly the unsigned order does not explain why.

    Which means no precedent is set.

    But on the flip side, I would have liked to know if the SC declined to hear it because they thought it should be left to the State, it was undue federal interference if they overruled a state supreme court on a matter of State law, or there was some federal law that barred the suit, etc.

    Anyways, this does raise the following contradiction - if both Stein and the SC are in the GOP’s pocket, how come the SC didn’t help the GOP by ordering Stein back on the ballot?

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      7 days ago

      Anyways, this does raise the following contradiction - if both Stein and the SC are in the GOP’s pocket, how come the SC didn’t help the GOP by ordering Stein back on the ballot?

      Exactly! Very good question.

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    11 days ago

    Good, if your campaign isn’t competent enough to even file the right bureaucratic papers you proooobably don’t have anything together enough to run a country

    • In fairness to the Greens, they actually had the right paperwork prepared and ready to file, and it was refused with the state officials saying to file incorrect paperwork instead.

      I feel this is bad in terms of (non-legal) precedent - the GOP might be able to use a similar strategy to keep the Dems off the ballot in the future in any battleground states where they control both the governorship and the state legislature.

      E.g.

      Dems: Here’s the correct paperwork. Put us on the ballot and see you on election day.

      State officials (GOP affiliated): No, wrong paperwork. Fill this out.

      Dems: You sure? We think this is right.

      State officials: Yep, you gotta do this one or no election for you.

      Dems: Fine.

      National GOP: They filled the paperwork wrong. Keep them off the ballot.

      Dems: Nope, we were told do this by the State.

      State officials (GOP affiliated): Sorry, we made a mistake. You’re off the ballot.

      Dems: Courts?

      Courts: Sorry, but you’re still off the ballot even though it’s not your fault.

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    11 days ago

    Good. One less State allowing her betrayal of America.

    “We are stuck with Biden[/Harris] now, in a two-party duopoly, if one should be defeated ferociously, the logic is that the other one prevails.” (Ralph Nader, 2023)

    Putin’s Shill Stein wants Nato disbanded, the US to give up their SC veto, and revoke weapons to help Ukraine defend itself while simultaneously forcing ‘peace’ (subjugation) negotiations with russia.

    2015 Stein breaking bread with Putin, his senior staff, and Mike Flynn (later Trump’s national security advisor

    More context:

    For those that don’t understand how the Electoral College + FPTP voting works, voting for her means helping donald become president due to the spoiler effect.

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        10 days ago

        This is why we need better education. People who think they can just say words and they don’t even need to make any logical sense

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            Yes for you all we have to do is convince 45% of voters to do something they would literally never do to succeed. And then if we don’t succeed, burning the country the rest of the way to ground at the expense of every vulnerable person is not only not cruel, it’s a fine choice. And that’s the only way to be a logical true leftist. Limiting suffering is clearly a horrible choice. I guess once we realize that suffering and cruelty is the whole point, your positions do make a lot of sense.

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              10 days ago

              It’s worse than that. And understanding this is key to understanding why voting third party will never work in the USA without reforming our electoral system.

              Suppose tomorrow, a genie grants one of these posters’ wishes and suddenly it’s Stein with 48.0% of the vote in critical swing states, and Harris and other candidates on the Left sit on 3% of the vote, while Trump has 51% of the vote. Suddenly, it’s Harris who’s the spoiler and we end up with Trump because 10k voters thought Jill was too cosy-cosy with Russia.

              I have specific issues with Stein that would definitely have me far less sure of my vote, but I’d still take her over Project 2025 and DJT. I’d still be calling as hard against voting third party as I am in this universe where it’s the Greenie and not the Democrat that would spoil the election.

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      11 days ago

      No, not good.

      Anyone who votes for her is a fucking moron who is wilfully ignoring the reality of how FPTP voting works.

      But they should still have that right. It’s undemocratic to say otherwise. Saying they shouldn’t be allowed to run just because you don’t like the effect that voting for them might have is the mark of autocracy.

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        10 days ago

        Couldn’t agree more. They used the form provided to them. Withholding ballot access based on a technicality smacks of disenfranchisement.

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          3 days ago

          Apparently “democracy should be open” is a controversial take.

          Or maybe my comment got downvoted for saying that those voting for her are morons?