Fifteen thousand people marched in protest against the government's Israel policy as the party's conference began in Liverpool
  • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    this and macron creating a conservative government despite leftists winning the most votes in france makes me wonder if a leftist victory is ever possible.

    • Alsephina@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3·
      2 months ago

      Not through liberal “democracies” no, where the entire point is to keep capitalists in power. Unionizing and organizing for a revolution has always been the only way.

      • leisesprecher@feddit.org
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        2 months ago

        The much bigger problem is the apathy and stupidity of the average person.

        Every single person in Western countries has enough information to see through the bullshit of the political class and they have the power to vote them out. But they don’t. They don’t want to be bothered by actually taking responsibility, they just want someone else to blame. Jews, immigrants, gays, doesn’t matter.

        Many will argue with propaganda, but most of the propaganda is extremely blatant. You’ll only believe it, if you want to believe it. It may solidify resentments, but it won’t create them out of nowhere.

        • rando895@lemmygrad.ml
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          2 months ago

          Even if it’s true that people are stupid (which is also a narrative pushed which ensures apathy) that is completely irrelevant. Why is it that these apparently stupid people believe the “wrong thing”? Well, it’s the same as always. The capitalists are better organized than us, and those supporting them know of no other alternatives. So for a successful revolution the oppressed class needs to get better organized (which IS happening, albeit slowly).

          If YOU feel apathetic, please find a socialist/communist/radical left party/group and join it. It can help immensely

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
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      2 months ago

      Not the “proper” way, that way was designed to prevent a leftist victory from ever happening, and shutting it down if it does. However, history has shown that it’s incredibly achievable once people get together and decide to stop playing the ruling class’s games.

    • wewbull@feddit.ukEnglish
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      2 months ago

      It’s literally pollicital correctness gone mad.

      Doesn’t matter. Talk about talk about war crimes and state enforced segregation.

    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
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      2 months ago

      I’m guessing that’s a great idea here. Either the censorship fails in a wave of “de-peoplising” memes or whatever, or they’re forced to make the rules more and more dragnet until they’re transparently fighting their own activists and party members.

      Assuming there’s not actually much grassroots support for memoryholing the whole situation, anyway.