In a video, Nelson said he would set himself ablaze "to stop supplying Israel with the money and weapons it uses to imprison and murder innocent Palestinians" and "to pressure Israel to end the genocide in Gaza."
By comparison with a world in which the major superpower can’t muster a candidate who opposes genocide? Yeah, the world is way sicker than this guy was.
I’m not nor was I comparing it to anything. If you self immolate, that’s a very strong indicator you’re not mentally well. Again, I agree with their cause but it’s really weird to imply they were mentally healthy when they decided to light themselves on fire and die horrifically
Wow, that’s some deep thought, there, R D Laing. What if we’re the crazy ones?
People close to me have schizophrenia. It’s as much a disease as cancer is. If you don’t believe that, you’ve never experienced it up close, or you have an inability to learn from direct experience.
Anyone who blames themselves for something they have absolutely no say in or control over, to the degree they are willing to set themselves on fire over it, is mentally ill.
Any world in which the principal superpower lets a tiny nation write its foreign policy for it, to the point where that superpower is giving the tiny nation the means to commit genocide and refuses to stop, is a profoundly sick world.
Israel attacked an intelligence gathering ship to prevent it from realizing that Israel was the one starting shit in Syria… then the US really started supporting it.
It’s unfortunate that you would rather attack a man for the way he opposes a genocide than move on and oppose a genocide yourself.
You can’t support him because it would support his truth that we are all culpable, and you can’t face that reality.
And yes, it is America’s fault he has genocide on his conscience and felt compelled to go to such measures, he is a victim of America’s genocide. Was Hitler just suicidal in that bunker? Or do you recognize that external actions can influence such things in that case, and just choose to remain ignorant in this one?
Would you like me to be pro-suicide.
I would like you to be a sympathetic understanding human being opposed to genocide, who even if they don’t agree with this man’s actions themselves, recognizes the context they exist in and focuses towards the true goal of opposing a genocide, rather than attacking a righteous martyr.
But that’s a tall ask for Americans in the core of the genocidal imperialist project, unfortunately.
I’m encouraging others not to waste their lives, when they can accomplish far more by staying alive and engaging.
But if you want to torch yourself and refuse to get professional help, I can’t stop you. Just don’t encourage others to emulate your disordered thinking.
I’m saying killing yourself over US actions isn’t a sane move.
And I’m saying that no product of this barking mad oblate spheroid is qualified to make that assessment. But dismissing him as insane is a great way to not have to treat his rebuke to humanity as the just condemnation it is.
Imagine looking at this and reaching the conclusion that it is he and not the world that has gone mad.
I’m gonna say the guy that self immolated was not mentally well even if I agree with his cause
By comparison with a world in which the major superpower can’t muster a candidate who opposes genocide? Yeah, the world is way sicker than this guy was.
I’m not nor was I comparing it to anything. If you self immolate, that’s a very strong indicator you’re not mentally well. Again, I agree with their cause but it’s really weird to imply they were mentally healthy when they decided to light themselves on fire and die horrifically
What does sanity even mean in an insane world?
See a psychiatrist
For knowing that genocide is madness.
Wow, that’s some deep thought, there, R D Laing. What if we’re the crazy ones?
People close to me have schizophrenia. It’s as much a disease as cancer is. If you don’t believe that, you’ve never experienced it up close, or you have an inability to learn from direct experience.
Same. I don’t use their illness as an excuse to ignore atrocities.
Anyone who blames themselves for something they have absolutely no say in or control over, to the degree they are willing to set themselves on fire over it, is mentally ill.
Any world in which the principal superpower lets a tiny nation write its foreign policy for it, to the point where that superpower is giving the tiny nation the means to commit genocide and refuses to stop, is a profoundly sick world.
Israel attacked an intelligence gathering ship to prevent it from realizing that Israel was the one starting shit in Syria… then the US really started supporting it.
Israel is a blight on the world.
Your confused. Self-immolation isn’t about self-punishment anymore than any other protest method.
It’s the “we are all culpable” leading to the immolation that’s indicative of mental illness.
He said “we are all culpable” not “I alone am culpable.”
I think most if not all of the “he’s nuts” talk is from people who would rather not consider themselves culpable.
And that’s stupid binary thinking and he was wrong.
Thus.
If you refuse to speak up and take a principled stand against genocide, you are culpable.
Tacit support for genocide is indicative of mental illness.
I mean dude did kill himself by setting himself on fire. That’s pretty nuts
That’s tame in comparison to the genocide he is protesting.
What’s nuts is you attacking the man who was killed by the US support for genocide, rather than continuing to attack the US genocide.
If you disagree with his form of protest against the genocide, fine, ignore it and go do your own form of protest.
What’s the point in criticizing him? Make yourself feel better?
More immediate cause was probably all that burning gasoline he poured on himself. What a waste
Damn you’re pathetic and evil.
You’re trying to blame the US for some suicidal man killing himself. Idk, I’m not a fan of suicide overall.
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Would you like me to be pro-suicide…? That’s whack
It’s unfortunate that you would rather attack a man for the way he opposes a genocide than move on and oppose a genocide yourself.
You can’t support him because it would support his truth that we are all culpable, and you can’t face that reality.
And yes, it is America’s fault he has genocide on his conscience and felt compelled to go to such measures, he is a victim of America’s genocide. Was Hitler just suicidal in that bunker? Or do you recognize that external actions can influence such things in that case, and just choose to remain ignorant in this one?
I would like you to be a sympathetic understanding human being opposed to genocide, who even if they don’t agree with this man’s actions themselves, recognizes the context they exist in and focuses towards the true goal of opposing a genocide, rather than attacking a righteous martyr.
But that’s a tall ask for Americans in the core of the genocidal imperialist project, unfortunately.
I’m encouraging others not to waste their lives, when they can accomplish far more by staying alive and engaging.
But if you want to torch yourself and refuse to get professional help, I can’t stop you. Just don’t encourage others to emulate your disordered thinking.
I mean, we’re kinda working on that as a species as well.
And would you call that sane?
Nope. But we’re gonna keep doing it anyway, and calling this guy crazy because it’s easier than admitting that we are all culpable.
You are in no position to determine my degree of culpability, or that of anyone who’s not pulling a trigger.
Wash those hands, Pilate.
Friend, come on
If you want to pretend that we live on a sane planet, well, when on Earth, do as the Earthlings do, I guess.
I’m saying killing yourself over US actions isn’t a sane move. You brought up global warming in reply as if that meant anything in this discussion.
And I’m saying that no product of this barking mad oblate spheroid is qualified to make that assessment. But dismissing him as insane is a great way to not have to treat his rebuke to humanity as the just condemnation it is.
What, are you 16? Do you think this is some kind of life-changing insight?
It changes nothing. He’s still dead and the genocide continues for your entertainment.