I agree, but she’s still useful. We shouldn’t just give up that utility because she’s a horrible person. The other side is doing whatever they can to hold on to power, and we need to use whatever we can to stop them. Being too pure is how we let them take power in the first place.
she’s still useful. We shouldn’t just give up that utility because she’s a horrible person.
Idk, that strategy can definitely backfire. I’m sure significant chunks of the GOP regretted backing the ‘useful idiot’ Trump once he grew too powerful to control. Maybe what we should do with their conspiracy theorists, grifters and propagandists, is starve them of attention?
Being too pure is how we let them take power in the first place.
Was it though? Was Biden too pure? Or are you saying that this all comes down to “PC culture”?
I really fear this angle. “we can use her” will effectively sane-wash this person and make her seem more reasonable to the less informed voters. I don’t want a MTG presidency.
Never mind the GOP. Hillary fucking Clinton spent millions of dollars promoting Trump in the run up to the 2016 election, because she wanted to make the Republicans look more radical and dangerous, and Trump was the most radical, dangerous candidate in the race.
In a review of Clinton’s 32 general election TV ads, the Associated Press found that 24 of those ads show or mention Trump. The majority of those 24 ads feature raw footage of him rather than others opining on his words and actions.
Interestingly, the title of the mentioned AP article is “Clinton’s ‘nasty’ Trump ads are mostly his own words” - it doesn’t criticize the campaign’s choice at all.
Maybe what we should do with their conspiracy theorists, grifters and propagandists, is starve them of attention?
That is not something we can control. That’s in them, not us.
Was it though? Was Biden too pure? Or are you saying that this all comes down to “PC culture”?
He was too “safe” for sure. The left rarely is willing to get it’s hands dirty. The right always is. They will use anything when it’s useful to them, no matter how dirty it may be. If there’s a tool that’s useful to us, we need to be willing to pick it up.
Now, this all should be couched in language like “if the crazy space lazer lady understood this, you should be able to.” It should always be reminding them she’s insane, just that they must be too if she’s this far ahead of them.
Useful how? Harris was wrong to spend so many resources trying to attract Republicans that she thought could be swayed away from Trump. She converted very few voters, and lost a lot of voters on the left. Why should we repeat that same mistake?
Using MTG aligns you with an antisemite, and if it attracts anyone to your cause, it will be more antisemites.
Not trying to attract them. To spread apathy. We need to point out that even his craziest supporters can see through him. The only ones not speaking out are the ones benefiting from it.
If they don’t want to support a candidate on the left, that’s fine. We need to just make them not vote. The right has trolls constantly saying people shouldn’t vote for any Democrat candidate, no matter how closely they align with their views. Even AOC isn’t enough seemingly. We need to be willing to spread the same apathy to them.
I agree, but she’s still useful. We shouldn’t just give up that utility because she’s a horrible person. The other side is doing whatever they can to hold on to power, and we need to use whatever we can to stop them. Being too pure is how we let them take power in the first place.
Idk, that strategy can definitely backfire. I’m sure significant chunks of the GOP regretted backing the ‘useful idiot’ Trump once he grew too powerful to control. Maybe what we should do with their conspiracy theorists, grifters and propagandists, is starve them of attention?
Was it though? Was Biden too pure? Or are you saying that this all comes down to “PC culture”?
I really fear this angle. “we can use her” will effectively sane-wash this person and make her seem more reasonable to the less informed voters. I don’t want a MTG presidency.
Never mind the GOP. Hillary fucking Clinton spent millions of dollars promoting Trump in the run up to the 2016 election, because she wanted to make the Republicans look more radical and dangerous, and Trump was the most radical, dangerous candidate in the race.
Thanks, Hillary. Good call.
I guess you’re referring to this?
Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign (Wikipedia):
Interestingly, the title of the mentioned AP article is “Clinton’s ‘nasty’ Trump ads are mostly his own words” - it doesn’t criticize the campaign’s choice at all.
That is not something we can control. That’s in them, not us.
He was too “safe” for sure. The left rarely is willing to get it’s hands dirty. The right always is. They will use anything when it’s useful to them, no matter how dirty it may be. If there’s a tool that’s useful to us, we need to be willing to pick it up.
Now, this all should be couched in language like “if the crazy space lazer lady understood this, you should be able to.” It should always be reminding them she’s insane, just that they must be too if she’s this far ahead of them.
Useful how? Harris was wrong to spend so many resources trying to attract Republicans that she thought could be swayed away from Trump. She converted very few voters, and lost a lot of voters on the left. Why should we repeat that same mistake?
Using MTG aligns you with an antisemite, and if it attracts anyone to your cause, it will be more antisemites.
Not trying to attract them. To spread apathy. We need to point out that even his craziest supporters can see through him. The only ones not speaking out are the ones benefiting from it.
If they don’t want to support a candidate on the left, that’s fine. We need to just make them not vote. The right has trolls constantly saying people shouldn’t vote for any Democrat candidate, no matter how closely they align with their views. Even AOC isn’t enough seemingly. We need to be willing to spread the same apathy to them.