If Christianity is man made, why does everything about it go against man’s desires? Does Christianity go against man’s desires? If so, is that evidence for Christianity? I answer this question, discussing the history of Christianity, the cognitive science of religion, Buddhism, Jainism, Islam, and more.

The whole “atheists can’t answer this question” and “atheists can’t explain this” thing is really getting old.

  • CameronDev@programming.dev
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    5 months ago

    “Thou shall not kill” - God

    “What!? But that goes against my base desires!” - A “christian”

    Most people have no trouble following Christianitys rules, and if you struggle without Sky Daddy watching your every move, maybe your a bad person.

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      i dunno. the whole glutony thing. the orgies thing. those can be kinda fun until you’re fat and have more STD’s than are known to medical science.

      the reality is religion- including Christianity- is a form of social control. the rules were established specifically to control people. men, sure. but women especially.

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        Religion has definitely been coopted for control, but the 10 commandments, and most of Jesus teachings are not really controversial or controlling (The arent progressive in todays terms, but for their time I think they are very reasonable).

        The layers of bullshit that has been built on top certainly is controlling.

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          I am concerned you don’t know the 10 commandments if you think they’re not controversial or controlling.

          To name a few most forgotten:

          Honor the sabbath day. Only worship yhwh. Don’t make any idols. Don’t take yhwv’s name in vain. And a lesser thought-crime: Don’t covet.

          Sure, the rest are societally beneficial. But these that are often forgotten are about control and nothing else.

          Edit: It’s hardly ever brought up that monotheism in Judaism wasn’t a thing until much later. So, again, these forgotten rules are about controlling who and even how to worship.

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            Fair, those three arent the best, but they are also open to interpretation. Honor the sabbath doesnt have to mean hide in a cave all day, could just be treated as take some time to rest. One god, the lords name and idols dont really impact anyone (as most.christians dont follow it anyway, and most athiests dont care either)

            And while those may cause a minor impact to someones life, its nothing compared to the control being exerted via abortion bans and other modern religeous bullshit.

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              It seems like you’re just being passive to avoid addressing the fact that these are extremely restrictive.

              There is no doubt that the 10 commandments are exclusionary and intended to place any followers under the control of local religious authority.

              This is like saying “Oh, we just pick and choose what to follow.”

              So, if that’s the case, what’s the point of following any of it? Jesus’ words were very specific on that part. “I come not to abolish the law, but to fulfill the law and the prophets.”

              It’s not a pick and choose kind of religion, even the christian-addendum.

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                That may be your interpretation, but its not mine. I am not christian and have no trouble following them, because they are so general and open to interpretation.

                It’s not a pick and choose kind of religion, even the christian-addendum.

                And yet there are hundreds of denominations that do exactly pick and choose. It seems you are the one insisting that you cannot pick and choose. (And obviously church leaders would prefer you dont pick and choose, but usually they do as well).

                The overall vibe from my Christian religious education was that as long as you are striving to be a good person, you have a place in Heaven. To err is human, and Jesus died on the cross to absolve mankind of their sins. This made atheism an obvious choice, because I do strive to be a good person, so no need to go to church and have someone else tell me what to do.

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                  So… do you wear clothes made of blended fibers? That’s against scripture.

                  Do you turn on lights on Saturday/friday night? That’s working on the sabbath,

                  Are you a man who shaves? A woman who wears short hair?

                  Perhaps you have a tat?

                  All against scripture. And unequivocally so.

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      Sex besides and before marriage and same sex partners are not avoidable desires like killing