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https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/our-blessed-homeland-their-barbarous-wastes
https://medium.com/@sukosuko1/our-blessed-homeland-0218f41bb51a
https://www.theguardian.com/books/gallery/2015/mar/11/a-life-in-letters-with-tom-gauld-in-pictures
Quote by Doug Stanhope: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=QsPDT5qHtZ4
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so many americans and europeans on this site are literally this and they’re probably gonna upvote this anyway
Pretty sure Lemmy is very anti-nationalist on average
my point is that they think they’re anti-nationalist but they still default to nationalist thinking. when discussing the global south, so many people here still insist that the west is somehow free and democratic while scary and different global south is oppressive and autocratic.
So true fam, good thing we’ve got the best, most free democracy here in England 👏♥️
Depends. Nationalism is progressive in liberating colonized countries from oppression, such as in Palestine. I don’t support nationalism in the abstract, but sometimes in the particular if it plays a progressive role. I still support communist movements more, but nationalists can be allied with against colonialism, neocolonialism, and imperialism.
My neighbouring countries are all of Germanic descent, and I don’t have that big of an issue with them, but certain other countries can fuck right off, IMO.
Also, this image contains a stupid, ignorant, argument, so no upvote from me.
wow, the original
You can find more information about it here: https://medium.com/@sukosuko1/our-blessed-homeland-0218f41bb51a
teaches you to take pride in shit you’ve never done
The better outcome.
I’m more horrified by the fuckers who go out and do the war crimes, then come home and demand everyone else say “Thank You For Your Service”.
Some cases are very ironic, like the one of American veterans who fought in Vietnam coming back there to retire
https://phong-partners.com/en/american-veterans-choose-vietnam-for-retirement
At first I read “British invaders”
National patriotism is a religion that worships dirt.
That’s why you should travel and learn other languages when you are young. You’ll learn a different perspective, culture, way of life and even if you don’t make it your own, it’ll be harder to see one superior to the other.
Some way people need to realize we are all human and need to work together for the world but greed of the few, aided by politics & religion used to control the many, keeps getting in the way.
Outside the more pragmatic and conceivable city-state, the very concept of nationality in the modern sense is pretty useless.
It is useless for the worker, but it is very useful for the owner. The owner will use foreigners as scapegoats for the low salaries of the workers.
The owner will use foreigners as scapegoats for the low salaries of the workers.
OK, but if you bring in a ton of foreigners to do a certain job, the salaries are going to be lower.
Not, that’s not the foreigners fault, but the state’s fault for letting those foreigners in, in the first place. Though I bet you have a strong opinion about mass-migration as well?
The origin of the word “nation” refers to the ethnicity (a folk, if you will) of the people that live in a land. No nation, no people. Example: The Roma, for example, are a nation without a country.
Now, to take pride in a thing means to regard it as good, worthy, admirable.
To take pride in one’s nation simply means to recognize the good, and to value, preserve, defend, and contribute to it. It means regarding one’s people, heritage, and public order as worthy of loyalty, care, and continuation. It does not require the claim that one’s nation is perfect, nor that it is superior to all others.
Nationalism becomes problematic as soon as loyalty to one’s own people or country becomes more important than truth, justice, and proportion. I think that there is where the issue truly lies.
TL;DR: There is nothing wrong in recognizing the good your nation does, and recognize that another nation may be incompatible with yours in certain parts is OK. “Abusus non tollit usum” - Cicero (I think?): “abuse does not cancel use”, or “misuse of something is no argument against its proper use”.
I like to relight nation towards root. That way it’s not about upholding the heart of walldoms.
When you begin to study the tradition of your country, you often discover that many words, fairy tales, and dishes that you consider traditions of your own country are actually from very faraway places.
For example: the zero and chess from India; algebra and algorithms from Arabic countries; paper, silk, gunpowder, and ceramics from China; tomatoes and potatoes from America; etc.
When you begin to study the tradition of your country, you often discover that many words, fairy tales, and dishes that you consider traditions of your own country are actually from very faraway places.
OK, and? That does not mean I can’t love the way my country is, and that I want to protect this way. And it can be done without destroying someone else’s country.
For example: the zero and chess from India; algebra and algorithms from Arabic countries; paper, silk, gunpowder, and ceramics from China; tomatoes and potatoes from America; etc.
Cool, and those countries use our inventions as well (telescopes, Stock Exchanges, pendulum clocks, polders (and water management in general)). That does not mean I stop wanting to preserve and protect the volksgeist of the country I live in.
No, that does not mean we don’t do anything wrong, ever, and that we cannot grow beyond where we are now, but there are certain foundational aspects that I 100% want to see preserved (like showing up on an appointment, on time).
Except that guy didn’t come up with that comic, he stole the text from some one and did the drawing. Bit like Corey Doctrows whole entshitification schtick, also taken from some one else whom he refuses to credit.
