They don’t give a fuck about minimizing suffering, they gladly eat food grown by slaves, or overconsume things some communities rely on, or replace things made of leather with things made of plastic that’ll break down into microplastics. They force their shit into pets like cats who can’t thrive on a vegan diet. And that’s assuming they don’t just call you a nazi for even having a pet, or steal your pet from you so they can kill it. And ofc they’re just the most holier than thou pieces of shit anywhere, who think everyone who isn’t vegan is literally as bad as a fascist.
Yall are weird. Really weird. And you don’t have to be this harmful. Quit getting even more plastic shit, stop abusing pets, quit taking food from indigenous people who need it. You can minimize animal products without replacing them with even worse things, and failing to do so makes you just as much of an irredeemable fascist as the rest of us. Human suffering is not preferable to animal suffering. If you disagree, you are literally a sociopath
There’s an argument in there that isn’t a caricature though. I could be persuaded to eat less meat, but I also don’t want to add vegan lab protein science kit to my food. It has been my experience that anyone who uses the word ”carnist" unironically is beyond understanding that we can take 2 or 3 steps and maybe end up at the same perspective (or come closer to your way of thinking), or you can drive people away before the discussion even starts.